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Does this mean I should thank the lord for my being adopted by childmolesters?

> sKoE )= wrote:

> "The radio thing was just a publicity stunt. The message will take 25000 years to reach it's destination, a destination which in reality is ulikely to have habitable worlds due to the stars being the wrong kind of stars, and even if there is someone listening it will take another 25000 years before we hear them say "Pardon?"."

What if it gets sucked into one of them freaky holes? Worm hole here, worm hole there, OMG! Instant connection.<

Even if a stable wormhole could naturally occur in our universe the transmission would have to be aimed directly at it (Wormholes don't suck, they're just there) and even if that occured the message would likely be scrambled by the journey... assuming a radiowave can even exist in a wormhole.

Subcommander Erf watched as Commander Krg strode out of the shuttle, flanked by the tactical away team and trailed by a thin, pale Mystic. "Remember," He said over his shoulder, "First watch. Dismissed."
The tactical away team marched out of the shuttle bay in unison, followed by the Mystic who never lifted his stare from the ground. As the bulkhead door closed behind them Krg shouted "Lock!" And then moved very close to Erf, whispering, "What do you know of our history? Our ancient history?" Erf frowned, wondering where this was leading to, this asking of a question that even an infant could answer.

"I know what all Wardancers know, I know that we do not have an ancestral home because we are made up of many races, I know that in the beginning we were just half breeds, the result of romances between some very different people and that our kind were sometimes regarded as freaks and outcasts who could only find homes with pirates and warlords. I know that as time passed we interbred in turn, and our numbers grew untill we were the pirates and warlords. I know that our broad genetic base made us stronger than any one of our parent races-"

"Which gave birth to our way of life, and some mistakes. Are you still following me?"

"I think so. You're talking about when we tried to improve on nature, on our accidental creation, when we tried to do it artificially."

"Yes I am. You remember those organic looking ships? Guess who they belong to? Our greatest mistake. A whole platoon of them were a that meeting, they're part of the Unified Fleet."

"What! How can those things be here? How can they be working with this fleet?"

"I don't know, but my guess is that some of them left the galaxy while our ancestors were trying to wipe them out. And now... I think the long journey gave them some thinking time. They are our creations, I have no doubt of that, they are just like in the stories, but they are also different."

"Well they must be if they are part of this Unified Fleet rather than the rulers of it. Are you going to tell the crew?"

"I have to. We were going to have to deal with them sooner or later, but universe has decided upon sooner; Our mission will have us working closely with them. Which brings me to the real subject of the meeting; the infant."

"What's their plan?"

"The Terranova has a cloaking device, I've done som checking and just as long as we stay very close to the ship it will cloak us too. The first problem will be the planetary defences, the last time they tried something like this the only reason they succeeded was because something called Zero sacrificed itself so they could escape. I've seen the tactical data and there is no way anyone can repeat what it did."

"What did it do?"

"Try to imagine a whirling ball of death two million kalikams across."

"Ah... so what are we going to do?"

"If we are fast we could use the clawships to board the orbital defences and then use them to our advantage, but I don't know what that would do to the cloaking field, our suddenly leaving it. But all this is assuming that the orbital defences are even boardable. Or that we can move fast enough."

"But with the cloak we could get close, very close."

"Mmm... I want you to come with me tomorrow."

"Of course. At first watch, correct?"

"Correct. Unlock!"

> Elysian Thebes wrote:

> fokker, you're not getting it. just because they're in the military doesn't mean they know jack about what BW is talking about. Navy coremen have more combat experience than a huge slice of the marine corps.

if you look into the whole pog/grunt thing, you'd understand what BW is talking about. yeah, my friend was a marine, but he spent 4 years behind a desk running papers and coffee for officers. he has a better understanding of things than the average civvie, but compared to an infantryman, all he has is 2 weeks of "roughing it" after he got out of boot camp.

like i said, from those in the know, /laugh, cry

and btw, the marine corps does use females in certain infantry-tasked roles, like searching females in homes/checkpoints since in the middle east, its way more acceptable than men doing it.<

And what of the two soldiers? Both of whom are serving in Iraq. (Ok, one is currently on leave) Both of whom say the same thing Ehawk says. Do they not get it too?

BW's view is based on when he was serving, WAS serving, past-tense. It was accurate then, I have no doubt, and have not questioned that.
My view is based on my obsessive questioning of my friends currently serving in the British military service. Currently. Present tense.

> Muppet wrote:

> There's a good chance, given the number of stars with the capacity to support colar systems, that some form of life exists elsewhere. Doesn't anyone else think that life may have existed elsewhere and then died out? The strongest radio wave ever transmitted was into deep spaceabout 25 years ago. (This correct?) It contains basic information about the human race and is one of the biggest projects in terms of trying to contact ETs. So, it's travelling at lightspeed, will take many many years to get to somewhere and a reply would take just as long. So, others may be trying the same idea, but are so far away that we'll never know, or are so underdeveloped we won't know, or are far better and are hiding beause they know we mucked up. Continuing the radio thing, (I read this last year so I've forgotten most of it,) but the other forms of looking into deep space have seen further and found nothing, (as yet,) so this may well not prove any more successful. Also, looking x-number of lightyears into space will mean that the light we see is also x-number of years old. Meaning that the light we would be seeing would have left there x-nmber of years ago and we'd see the object as it was x-number of years ago. Then, that could mean that as we see it was before life started developing into a noticeable or recognised form.<

The radio thing was just a publicity stunt. The message will take 25000 years to reach it's destination, a destination which in reality is ulikely to have habitable worlds due to the stars being the wrong kind of stars, and even if there is someone listening it will take another 25000 years before we hear them say "Pardon?". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arecibo_message
But someone did try again in 2001, and this time they aimed at a cluster of stars we know to have at least a few Jupiter type planets, and they are relatively close at ~40 light years away.

>Bit crazy this, but if the universe is about 15 billiion years old, and light is the fastest thing and everything is travelling away from the point of the big bang, then that means everything has been travelling for 15bilion years in every direction. So, universe has a radius of 15 billion lightyear and diameter of 30 billion lys.
Very approximate and devoid of theories I know!<

How's this for odd: Because of the expansion of the universe some of the light reaching us has actually travelled more than, for example, 15 billion lightyears so some things actually seem older than the universe itself.

".....because of a little chit chat session. "

With active members of all three branches of the UK military, AND the word of an actively serving soldier as posted on this very forum (Which you seem to have ignored).

"but, please...RAF ??  rofl.  what truck drivers and cooks ??  I mean please."

1 Royal Air Force pilot, 1 Female member of the Royal Navy and two actively serving members of the British Army. If you must flame then do it accurately.

"fokker, that didnt tell you anything about me.  You still dont know what I eat and do everyday."

Look, that maybe so but I do know what you want, I know what your goal is, and I can help you with that, but only if you lose the attitude.
Or is accepting help from Atheists against your particular brand of Christianity.

Exposition: a technique of dramatic structure in which undepicted plot elements are conveyed in dialogue, description, flashback or narrative.

"good, you noticed what i was pointing at! the word "improved"!"

Please show me where and how you were indicating that.

"now, mr. Cugnot is usually credited for first automobile. so does that make the fellow who put motorised window opening to cars a great inventor? he made an improved car!"

No, he made a motorised window, not an improved car. What strange logic you use.

"with your logic, it would seem so. sounds bloody ridiculous, though."

No, with my logic he made a motorised window, not an improved car.

"looks like you're getting desperate to defend kaffers' inability at scientific method."

The only desperation I see is yours. I'm willing to bet others see this too.

"but do entertain me! as you clearly showed, kaffers are able to make street sweepers (unless they accidentally listed its profession instead of invention) and work on other people's inventions."

And invent their own inventions, like security systems and mass spectrometers and smoke alarms and all after a mere 5 minutes of work...

"could you find me an african kaffer who has ever invented anything significant? i understand if you don't want to. you probably have a very clever exc.. reason too."

Significant like Universities, Written Language, Stone Achitecture, Mathematics, Paper, Batteries, Lightbulbs, Gunpowder, Medicine?
The fact is you have already decided that Black People have not, and can not, contribute in any way to society, and you have already proven that in the face of great inventions, inventions that made the world what it is today, created by black people will be ignored in favour of belittling their work, no matter how revolutionary, via some idiotic word game.
Now if you can promise that you will not do such a thing again then I will play your patheitc game, otherwise we both know where we stand.

Female Aardvark

"i said great inventors. i specifically said "not some shoe-polishing machine inventors". and then you post a list of kaffers who have invented such great things as street-sweeper and a type of lawnmower. whoopdidoo."

And a mass spectrometer and security system and a smoke alarm.... and that was only after 5 mins of research.

"so it invented the electrical resistor, is that what you're saying?"

No what I said was: "Improved Electrical Resistor" See that word IMPROVED? It means the one made by the cracker wasn't worth a pinch of salt.

Next time you try to move the goal posts do if BEFORE they score, k?