Did anyone notice that there are two number 4's?

Allow me to quote you:
"gwyn, stop acting like a retard"
"gwyn, its called context you dumb shit"
"you dumb piece of shit"
"i have never resorted to name calling, and you claiming i have, just further shows your stupidity."

And at this point I will stop arguing, as I am obviously debating the point with a juvenille.

You accused the cops of "abuse the powers the society gives him". What part of what I have said is a misinterpretation of that? If you didn't mean to say it that way and your meaning has been confused, then please, explain clearly what you meant, correct my error.

In the article itself "Miss Gonzalez was suspended from school and tried in a family court, where she was given eight hours of community service and ordered to write an essay about lessons to be learned from the incident."

Now Mr Blonde stated that maybe she made threats towards the police. He appears to be suggesting that if she said that she would get her dad to beat the cop up then it would be a justified arrest. If you are arguing against that particular point then maybe your argument is correct in that regard.

I am not demanding an impossible standard in order for you to form your opinions. I am suggesting you need more than just the media's version. I stand by my argument that you saying the cops are clearly at fault based on the fact that the media says so is like me calling you a paedophile based on the fact that you were near kids. The media does not portray all sides of a story, otherwise it wouldn't catch people's interest so much. I am a police officer, I deal with facts that are "beyond all reasonable doubt" before I presume to form an opinion of innocence or guilt. If you can show me how the media article proves beyond all reasonable doubt that the cops did the wrong thing, then go ahead. If you have their versions or an independant version that can prove that the cops are at fault, then go ahead.

My original argument against the post I quoted may appear to be out of context, however if you are going to make sweeping statements expect them to be taken as they are written. And again, you resort to name calling, showing your intelligence there avogadro.

avogadro, if it's not what you meant then say what you meant. You quite clearly say "it doesn't matter what the kid was like..." Were you there? Was anyone that has commented on the police in this thread present when it happened? I don't think people should go cop bashing based on the media whose favourite pass time is making the cops out to be thugs. If you have more of the facts, please share them and show us that it wasn't necessary in the situation, if you don't then you shouldn't be making comments blaming the cops. Simple.

Not too busy to write, jusst too darned inactive.....

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