PP_ if you read more careful we never said we didn't ask our allies or that we didn't need them. so what are you trying to say?

and for someone who has "infils" you are not really well informed. 52 has not failed any ops against me ever and they did destroy a lot of stuff.

as for the morale issue, it is still an excuse... either your fam lacks active attackers or just skill in how you defend retakes or to raid properly so we need spend OUR morale in to retaking instead of using it in attacking. And that is also where 75 comes in to play.. they kept retaking too and we spent our morale on that too... <--

you are comparing apples with pears tymo.

if your fam would be inactive and therefore owned it would be a perfect excuse. I don't see the link with complaining about morale

No morale is no excuse.. we just had more attackers retaking and that is also part of our strength.

as for this war, every family has his problems, so a "what if" game doesn't really work in this game. What if pitbull didn't have to go to hospital.. what if iluvatar did his job instead of being inactive.. what if 52 didn't op us.

either way.. your infra and fleets were probably equal to ours and our allies combined. considering  you opped our joined 3 popbankers and 52 kept killing our iron/cash.
in the end you should have pressed more but your family slacked and we kept retaking and attacking

don't you mean thunderlen ?

maybe not, but joined in with 52' opps, which unfortunately damaged us quite much. is a fair deal.

nvm, I don't have time for this

then the whole story might be debatable

*ring

haha lol

dramatic chipmunk ftw

You just talk crap, so you get it back at you. That is how it works!

nvm that just makes me sad, doesn't really make my blood boil.