> ~Wornstrum~ wrote:

> What goes up and down without moving?

The value of any given item. 

Oh what a goose I am! 

The awful place... hmm... hubrice?

By the way... is it bad if my first reaction was to check Skyrim wikis for Dragon shouts equivalent to the magic words?

Too much science... brain... fried...

Um... since when did most religious groups begin rejecting medicine?

Just want to check up on this, chaos.  Still around?  (We can't let You_Fool and Flint beat us to finishing the round first, now can we?)

1. Rin
2. Torqez
3. You_Fool
4. Zarf BeebleBrix

Yay petitions!

I just like signing petitions, really. 

1. Zarf BeebleBrix

One important note regarding the question of continue tournament vs. league: We already have one person (humidity) who said he was interested in participating, but can't because it's already going on.  Continuing the tournament means we lose some opportunities to get new participants.

Wait... is Wornstrum seriously arguing in favor of a decentralized free market against Flint?

What the hell is going on here?

> Paininside wrote:

> ok then, i ask you

how manny people die because of alcohol and tabacco a year, and how manny die because of your heroin.
you wil find that the numbers are far greater!

I'll concede the numbers are greater, no doubt.  However, there are multiple variables which make the numbers different.  Specifically, the fact that alcohol and tobacco are legal mean there will obviously be more deaths, because there is a higher available supply and marketability for those goods... much more than for heroin.  You're comparing apples and oranges here.

> And apparently u got no clue what an alchohol addiction does to people, or when a heavy smoker has to go outside every 10 minits for their puff. can they be an asset to our community?

1: There is such a thing as an alcohol user who isn't an alcohol addict.  That is almost unheard of with heroin.
2: Don't try and tell me I don't know what it does.  I've had plenty of close relatives who have died from both alcohol and non-alcohol related drug addictions.  I could make this some emotional issue based on those experiences, but I'm trying to analyze things objectively.  Don't pretend you know me for the sake of your argument.
3: An alcohol or cigarette user can still hold up a job.  A heroin user loses all motivation for everything other than their next high.
4: Rehabilitation from alcohol and rehabilitation from heroin are in two completely different fields.  One is stressful and painful.  The other is deadly.

> your just one of them sheep saying what others have teatched you to say, due to the fact our goverments allow these drugs in our society that their better...

their alll just alike! being equally as bad.

Why don't you try not throwing out the personal attacks and just sticking to the issues.  Things like this do nothing to help determine the truth value of anyone's arguments... it just helps to hurt the actual debate that occurs in these forums.  I'd strongly advise you to stick to the substantive arguments, and not the ad hominem.

I definitely agree that cigarettes and alcohol are bad.  But they're just not on par with certain drugs, specifically heroin.  I'm just noting that, no matter what you think in general for drug laws, heroin is in its own category entirely.

My answer was helpful, depending on your definition of "net worth."