V.Kemp wrote:Weapons and a vide variety of drugs are available in my community. But nobody shoots anyone. Rarely is a kid dumb enough to do anything more than drink a few beers and smoke a few joints. It must sound so enlightening to hear yourself talk about the US government providing drugs, weapons, and HIV infected prostitutes to poor blacks as a part of their organized master plan. But these things are available to everyone in and around these areas. They PAY for them. Who buys weapons and uses them in crimes is not determined by government weapons giveaways. If you have any evidence of these do provide it. Who contracts HIV is not determined by government [HIV+]whore giveaways. If you have any evidence of these do provide it. Who is addicted to crack, heroin or anything else is not determined by government drug giveaways. If you have any evidence of these do provide it.
It's a solid story. It presumes so many facts with 0 evidence that that's all it is.
Nobody is making anyone buy a weapon and become a murderer. Nobody is making anyone purchase crack and become a crackhead. Nobody is making anyone have sex with random whores and get AIDS. Tell whatever stories you want; the problem is not the availability of guns, drugs, or STDs. These things are all available in any area despite the best and most expensive efforts a government can take to stop them. To propose that a nanny government is needed to save poor blacks from guns, drugs, and STDs is insulting. It's insulting because it perpetually portrays them as victims of their inferiority. It's additionally insulting to their intelligence because it proposes to "solve" a problem which is supposedly cause BY the presense of guns, drugs, and STDs with measures which do not remove guns, drugs, or STDs from any community. The solution does not match the problem, and the problem has been misidentified to begin with.
The availability of guns, drugs, and STDs do not lead to the problems discussed here (many here attributing the availability of these things to direct government action aimed at oppression of poor blacks). These things are available to virtually all communities, despite any and all government restrictions and bans. If any community has irregularly large problems with these things it is not a result of availability. If the price of a firearm or drug dropped in price to 50% or 25% because Uncle Sam wanted to oppress most communities I've ever known or been a part of, the impact would be minimal if there was any impact at all. The price of a gun is nothing near the difference between a decent person and one who will mug/rob/murder. The price of a drug is far less than the difference between a relatively functional, healthy human being and one who smokes crack like its their job and steals and robs to support their habbit.
Regardless of the claim of government responsibility for the availability of all of these things in certain communities (would love all the evidence we can find), to claim that availability is the absolute/real/most significant source of the problem is just fallacious reasoning. I'll be blunt; it's a lie.
You're talking about now. We're talking about decades ago. These are two completely different things. These things came about when segregation was still going on. When Malcolm X, Martin Luther King Jr., The black panther party and other civil rights activists were improving things.
Why did it get into the communites? Simple, for control. This has happened all throughout history. You don't really need to know about it because it doesn't affect you. Police officers were the original people dealing the drugs out in these communities and they still are. You're saying that it's ridiculous to believe that drugs and guns were fed into poor black communities when we're talking about the same government that was making it legal for them to not go to school, vote, work. This is a time when crosses were burning in their yards, people were (and still are) being hung on trees, attached to cars and dragged through the roads, beaten by police for just being black, etc. etc.
In 1932 the government used 412 blacks as guinea pigs for a syphillis experiment. They told these 412 infected people that they were going to give them a new cure but in truth, they were actually just testing them to see how they responded compared to whites. http://www.tuskegee.edu/Global/Story.asp?s=1207586
But as I've said a million times and will continue to do so, it's really very difficult for anyone to relate to and understand the difficulties of a group, class, gender, etc. without having being apart of it or studying a good deal of it. For anyone who thinks it's bs and excuse, that's perfectly fine. It's not your history and not your concern. You're not really apart of what's going on and you can't possibly understand what it feels like
Also, the government isn't going to just lay proof of itself spreading cocaine and aids into the black community. I mean...seriously. The only people who know what happened with it are the people who created it. Since none of them are speaking on it, you can believe what you wanna believe. Nobody can prove or disprove it either way.