wasnt some brit going to drive through our deserts this summer?

"If we lefties have the spine/brains to admit it is a misnomer and that we should have called it Climate Change from the beginning, why cant you have the spine/brains to accept that?
In spite of your faults I thought you were smarter than this... I hate being wrong."

Because the POLITICAL MOVEMENT is based on the FACT, the PROVEN SYSTEM, the GLOBAL CONSENSUS around GLOBAL WARMING.

Now it turns out they can't predict whether it cools or warms but we should enact the SAME POLICIES.

Nuts!

And as for the Eos authors that is just pathetic really.  "Oh yes you track a global climate mechanism but it CAN'T be operating on this time scale"

Yes of course it can't be anything seen before in action. It must be SOMETHING TOTALLY NEW changing the climate.  That is not scientific argument that is circular reasoning. "We are experiencing something new because everything old is implausible!!"

as a guess the Great Lakes are probably equal in total sea area to the Black Sea.  They are only about 500 ft deep though, which is why the Edmund Fitzgerald (700 ft long) actually rammed the seabed before capsizing.

Brits had two or three seagoing frigates and some Canuck lake vessels, we had two or three ocean vessels and some lake craft.  About a dozen warships in all.  The strategic importance was it sealed the mississippi and Ohio from the Brits.

we started it? um we declared a state of war existed because of the warlike acts of the Brits

Alfred Thayer Mahan had a different conclusion Justinian

after the British admiral and court favorite Admiral Byng refused to fight even odds of French warships the British garrison on Minorca had to surrender the island to the french (a permanent transfer) Byng was tried for treason, but because he was the king's friend, the court-martial found him guilty of the lesser offense of "failing to do his utmost in the presence of the enemy".  The sentence for that was death by musketry, which was easier on Byng than being throttled, gutted, quartered and beheaded and exhibited all over England as a traitor. But still, death .

So from 1651 the Royal Navy commanders had to try and attack any Frenchmen in front of them or risk being shot to death.  Whenever and whereever. 

French naval officers, however, still saw their main mission as going from Point A to Point B.  So if a French commander knew a British fleet was between him and India or Haiti, he ignored it, and tried to get to Haiti, on the grounds the Navy supports the land forces.  That's what Mahan says, anyhow. And he said time and again the Brits chased the French to a point wehre the Brits had better wind and current conditions for their battles, and fought a French commander whose battle aim was to escape to his destination.

Mahan said regardless of any technical differences, the Royal Navy won more often because it jumped the French before the French considered themselves in a place to fight.

I thought this was a joke because it is the longest running open wound in the history of the forums

because the Brits and Canucks can't admit America won the war

Anyhow.

Apart from the European and Atlantic aspects, which involved total British disrespect of the US flag, the Brits also lied about pulling out of the Ohio River Valley and kept aiding Indians who raided peaceloving white Gaiarapers.  USA started the war being totally unprepared to fight the UK, our regular army was small compared to the part-time amatuer militias, who got pwnd after walking through the woods for a few weeks.  Our Secretary of War kept putting lousy generals in charge so he could try to command the Army himself.  new england got ready to secede from the US and do a deal with the Brits.  Then, in spite of that, our kickass Navy shot the hell out of the Brits even with 2:1 odds,so the Brits had to concede the North Sea and the English Channel to France and Spain while they blockaded us.  Our bold and bodacious Navy shot the canucks off the great lakes and we kicked the crap out of English armies on US soil.  If it weren't for the damn diplomats and the secessionist dorks up in NE (John Kerry country, go figure) we'd have forced the UK to give us Canada.  But sadly the country elected Democrats so we got a diplomatic settlement

that and they killed 800 Americans who dared try to liberate North Africa

and then DeGaulle spat on us a lot

and they tried to eliminate US words like "Jumbo jet" and "hamburger" in favor of French words.

since when do you have a civil liberty to haul anything across our border?

100% of 9/11 hijackers were foriegners

so common sense says you foriegners have to stand more scrutiny

Sure!

Even with quantam encryption the weakness is the physical security of the operator

But the government owes you more means!!!  Everybody relevant says so!!! /sarcasm

but both coach and the music teacher tell kids they don't measure up and have to leave. So where does that get you?

let's start teaching kids how to gamble and fight as an infantry squad  after school

that's more fun than marijuana and making out

and they'll use it in later life