Einstein wrote:

TSA is trying to expand to sports games, conventions, trucking traffic, and more. Fortunately their 185 armored vehicles and 1.5 billion rounds of ammunition purchases are slowing them down in hiring new agents.


And I oppose that because you can't make the Superbowl slam into a skyscraper holding 40,000 people and explode in a fireball hot enough to melt steel.

Who cares about the security of passengers?  They're dead when they board.  You know that.  If the plane is hijacked and the passengers can't recover it, it's going to be blown up.  You know that.

Airport security is about the security of people on the ground, who'll never see the threat coming until it's too late to run.   The whole "civil rights" argument about airport security misses them, somehow.  When exactly did the population of the USA who is not flying on an airplane, agree to be totally vulnerable to a terrorist attack, so 400 people could get across the country faster with less hassle?  I maintain WE didn't.  I sure didn't.  Again, if air is free, I'm going to go use it for storage without asking you for permission.

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What you propose is endless war against groups we often fund--the point not being blame but that we've enabled them to be the supposed threats you claim that they are. They were all harmless without our aid.

Who told you that?
I doubt you spoke with Syrian and Afghan and Libyan jihadists.
So who told you that?
You whine that I bark when my master shouts, but, who told you there was no threat without our aid?

BTW I said it would clearly end.

You're the gullible posterchild of globalist (authoritarian) victory. You claim to hold all of these Conservative positions which are in stark contrast to Obama, Clinton, Carter, etc. Yet when it comes down to it, you support precisely what they want you to.

Didn't know they supported attacks on jihadist populations until they're reduced to surrender.
I thought they were about sending aid, and wimpy attacks against this one and that one.

But I can't respect that as anything less than an insane position held by someone who's never going to have to fight, has no children who will be called on to fight, and who literally just doesn't care what effect this will have on the future of America as compared to (less insane) alternatives.

What fighting? I called for the delivery of WMD to population centers.
Oh noes! I forsee a future where we win! Ohh..noooooo

If you truly believe that everyone on the other side of the globe who dislikes America's foreign policy "threatens the United States itself

Everyone who dislikes America - its domestic culture as well as its foriegn policy - to raise the black flag of jihad and joins with Al Qaeda, is what I said.

A lot of the complaining is ridiculously extreme.   I got sucked into a thread on a guy who brought a boat from Canada, and there was an error on his paperwork, and he refused to sign it, and get this: they didn't let him go home and mail in the customs declaration!

They stole his boat!  He got it back when he signed the corrected paperwork, but they stole it!

Nineeleveneses!! Nineelevenses!  Curse you DHS, we hates it, we hates it forever!!!


The fact that US customs works that way on the Canuck border since forever, is just not the point!

BTW I was not Ridiculously extreme, I was absolutely right: the ban on air travel violated nobody's rights.

If I have the right to an easement over your head without asking you or fulfilling government conditions, I'm gonna get some weather balloons and sell storage space in floating lockers.  Imagine the advantage I'll have over traditional storage facilities that have to rent land.  I'll just hover in the free air that nobody has the right to interdict, and if you don't like it you're a fascist.  Thbbpptt.


"Robur's Hawkmen Storage Kingdom" has a nice ring

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Answers you reject are answers.  This is not "12 Angry Men" where the confused guy gets to tell other people "NO! Your answers aren't good enough!"

You have been answered: every group that flies the black flag of jihad threatens the United States itself and everything under our flag abroad, and lots of other people who don't consider themselves appropriately Muslim.

That's the answer.

The idea I cannot call for the United States to bomb on people that the current Administration sends aid to is laughable. It's silly. The US promised to make affordable wheat sales to the USSR for the last 20 years of the Cold War; was that something to use to shut Reagan down? "You can't build Star Wars -- Carter signed SALT II!!"  Obviously Reagan came forward to repudiate the incumbent.

Kill them til they give up.  We did it to Japan and Germany.  It works when its tried.  That a subsequent generation of lawyer-politicians call it "war crimes" bothers me not at all.  They can write nasty books about it.

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You refuse to even acknowledge American policy or actions in the region. You know this isn't about threats to the USA, just as Saddam and Qaddafi weren't.

I know exactly the opposite.
Did the CIA fake the Daniel Pearl video?  Or the Mumbai bombings?  Or the bombings of the Khobar Towers? 

(They wanted to stop using the dollar to sell oil)

Newsflash: Big Business wants to inflate the dollar to nothing.   They're going to secure a set % of GDP in "stimulus" and bailouts regardless of the value of the dollar.  They openly say we can do so because the rest of the human race is too stupid to stop buying American bonds.  Bloomberg said it last week, we have an infinite money supply.  They mean the US govt does, and they're going to be paid directly by the govt because they're too big to fail.  OPEC screwed up by not using inflation as a weapon wehn the US govt gave a damn aobut inflation of the dollar.  Too late now. Been too late since Bush got elected in 1988.

So you ramble and ramble. Because you were told these wars are for America, and that's all you need to be told.

Maybe you're just dumb.  I mean, I tell you right out I want to bomb on extremist populations til they submit - I estimate 33% of military age males as casualties will do it, based on the collapse of the Central Powers / Axis / British Empire after 2 world wars.  I tell you that flat out, and you're still talking about what I really ought to want.  Why would I trade the security of war crimes for a gamble?  Why would I do that?   And yet, with that in front of us, I'm still agog you can't find Al Waldo wearing his stocking cap and his black jihad flag.  My bad.

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if this is that bridal suite deal I am totally offended

Bush had it right when he banned air travel, nobody's rights were violated by searches during that month.

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Right, I've moved right past your complaining about American policy to ask you WHAT SHOULD BE DONE TO PEOPLE WHO IDENTIFY THEMSELVES AS ENEMIES OF THE UNITED STATES.

Your ideal outcomes help define the use and sense of your complaints.

Not an official name?  Dude. They have a flag
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:JackHensley.PNG

What they gotta have a copyright?  They gotta register and pay taxes as a franchise?  They gotta have a commissioner that sanctions them for ethical violations? Then we can expect that groups that hoist the black flag of Al Qaeda are tied into each other?

Your objections are answered by a call for global war against extremist population centers, in defiance of the 4th Geneva Convention, with weapons of mass destruction, until they collapse and form something harmless.  Works when its tried.  that's my position and I oppose anything short of that. Such as the current administrations aid program.  capece?

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People who take the trouble to brand themselves "Al Qaeda" are asking for it, just as if they go and embrace the swastika.

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I don't understand why suspension is any big fricking deal.  Expelled, ordered to the jail school, stuff like that, sure.

Suspensions? Shit we let parents suspend their kids for vacation.

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The Yell, you have repeatedly ignored the fact that we're arming and funding Al Qaeda in Syria. I take it that you obviously support this aid to Al Qaeda, as you have not once voiced disagreement with current government policy and actions.

Nope. I said to bomb them with gas, back on page 2.

You're still dancing around the question.  Apparently Al Qaeda is no threat to us anywhere. We shouldn't attack Al Qaeda anywhere.  Syria. Yemen.  Afghanistan.

Again I'm asking you for a concrete example of what should be done, and you can't even consider it.  You're trapped staring at America's navel.  You can't begin to complain about foreign terrorists.

Should we bomb Al Qaeda in Syria? Yes or No?  Without any talk of what we ARE doing.  Should we bomb Al Qaeda in Syria? Yes or No?

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>>I'd ask why we're messing with Syria at all, but you're so clueless as to what's going on in the region that it'd be a pointless venture.<<

I'll take that as a no.  "No, we should not fight Al Qaeda in Syria.  Al Qaeda is no threat to us."

Would that be right?


Of course you'll continue to squirm, and argue - at the same time - that there are no dangerous terrorists groups justifying the use of force overseas-- and -- that we are responsible for the existence of dangerous terrorists.

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He should spend it across the street from school, eating Doritos and skateboarding.

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Should we bomb Al Qaeda in Syria? Yes or No.

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Yes.

or

No.

I'd point out that if you think leaving Al Qaeda alone instead of bombing them and trusting they won't be a threat, is pretty damn offensive.  I mean, if I had joined a We Hate America fan league, and America cut us off from $60 million, I'd be PISSED.

Me I say bomb them.  With gas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl … ietmUdqJos

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I didn't say we were though I'm sure we will.

YOU admit Al Qaeda's in Syria, making it one  of the few places you admit Al Qaeda is at.

Should we bomb them?  Yes or no?

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I wouldn't bang you without a 3-bureau credit report

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what kind of check works like that?  They ask the chief of police if he heard of you?

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>>So background checks are identity theft? heh.<<


Lemme answer with a question - do you give up any part of your social security number?

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He also told colleagues at America's top military hospital that non-Muslims were infidels condemned to hell who should be set on fire. The outburst came during an hour-long talk Hasan, an Army psychiatrist, gave on the Koran in front of dozens of other doctors at Walter Reed Army Medical Centre in Washington DC, where he worked for six years before arriving at Fort Hood in July.
Colleagues had expected a discussion on a medical issue but were instead given an extremist interpretation of the Koran, which Hasan appeared to believe.
It was the latest in a series of "red flags" about his state of mind that have emerged since the massacre at Fort Hood, America's largest military installation, on Thursday.
Hasan, armed with two handguns including a semi-automatic pistol, walked into a processing centre for soldiers deploying to Iraq and Afghanistan, where he killed 13 and injured more than 30.
Fellow doctors have recounted how they were repeatedly harangued by Hasan about religion and that he openly claimed to be a "Muslim first and American second."
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One Army doctor who knew him said a fear of appearing discriminatory against a Muslim soldier had stopped fellow officers from filing formal complaints.
Another, Dr Val Finnell, who took a course with him in 2007 at the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Maryland, did complain about Hasan's "anti-American rants." He said: "The system is not doing what it's supposed to do. He at least should have been confronted about these beliefs, told to cease and desist, and to shape up or ship out. I really questioned his loyalty."
Selena Coppa, an activist for Iraq Veterans Against the War, said: "This man was a psychiatrist and was working with other psychiatrists every day and they failed to notice how deeply disturbed someone right in their midst was."
One of Hasan's neighbours described how on the day of the massacre, about 9am, he gave her a Koran and told her: "I'm going to do good work for God" before leaving for the base.
A civilian police officer who shot him, bringing the rampage to an end, said Hasan appeared "calm" during the massacre, hiding behind a telephone pole and shooting fellow soldiers in the back as they tried to get away.
"He was firing at people as they were trying to run and hide, said Sgt Mark Todd. "Then he turned and fired a couple of rounds at me. I didn't hear him say a word, he just turned and fired."
Hasan flinched after he was shot and slid down against the pole still clutching his gun, which had a laser sight on it. The officer kicked away the weapon and handcuffed him.
He said: "The guy was breathing, his eyes were blinking. I could tell that he was fading out and he didn't say anything. He was just kind of blinking."
Senator Joe Lieberman, who chairs the US Senate Committee on Homeland Security, said there had been "strong warning signs" that Hasan was an "Islamist extremist".
The committee would ask "whether the Army missed warning signs that should have led them to essentially discharge him, he said. He added: "The US
Army has to have zero tolerance. He should have been gone."
But General George Casey, the Army's Chief of Staff, said it was "speculation" that military authorities failed to pick up on warning signs. "I don't want to say that we missed it," he said.
Asked if military authorities had missed warning signs Gen Casey, the Army's Chief of Staff, added: "We have to go back and look at ourselves ,and ask ourselves the hard questions. Are we doing the right things? We will learn from this.
"It's too early to draw conclusions but we will ask ourselves the hard questions about what we are doing and the changes we should make as a result of this."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne … s-cut.html

Yeah it was totally coincidental this radical Muslim chose to write to an Al Qaeda cleric about the right and wrong of working in the US military.

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>>Obviously a mass shooting by a crazy lunatic who should have been given attention long before the shooting, save for political correctness, is justification for the mobilization of the largest military force on earth. One man's extremism and psychotic behavior is obviously a logical cause for taking a nation to war. You make a good point.<<

Way to shove your head in the gopher hole and yell "La La La La"

"The Fort Hood shooting was a mass murder that took place on November 5, 2009 at Fort Hood, the most populous U.S. military installation in the world, located just outside Killeen, Texas.[1] In the course of the shooting, a single gunman killed 13 people and wounded 29 others.[1] It is the worst shooting ever to take place on an American military base.[2]
The sole suspect is Nidal Malik Hasan, a 39-year-old U.S. Army Major serving as a psychiatrist. He was shot and taken into custody by Department of the Army Civilian Police officers.[3] Due to injuries from being wounded, he is paralyzed from the waist down.[4] Hasan has been charged with 13 counts of premeditated murder and 32 counts of attempted murder under the Uniform Code of Military Justice; he may face additional charges at court-martial. If he is convicted, he could be given the death penalty.[5][6]
Several individuals, including Senator Lieberman,[7] General McCaffy,[8] and others have called the event a "terrorist attack".[9][10] Investigations before and after the shooting discovered e-mail communications between Hasan and the Yemen-based cleric Anwar al-Awlaki who had been monitored by the NSA as a security threat. The communications were judged by law enforcement to be within Hasan's field of research.
Separately, Awlaki has been linked to the perpetrator of the attempted bombing of Northwest Airlines Flight 253. After he was identified as an Al Qaeda terrorist commander, Awlaki was identified by the United States as a target and was killed by drone in 2011.[11] The Department of Defense and federal law enforcement agencies have classified this as an act of workplace violence. They have declined requests from families to categorize it as act of terrorism, or motivated by militant Islamic religious convictions.[12]"

Yeah these "communications" were a Muslim mass-murderer asking a Muslim cleric if helping American soldiers recover from combat stress fighting Muslims, was a betrayal of Islam. 

Kemp goes further - not only was this totally unrelated, but, Muslims are right to be angry at America in the first place.


>>That dirt farmers in Yemen are not a threat to us and the fact that the US oppresses people and pisses them off are not mutually exclusive facts. You seem very confused. I'm not sure how you think one rules out the other.<<

You just proved I should feel totally guilty about creating the very not-threat that doesn't threaten us.

>>No. We're funding Al Qaeda in Syria to attack Assad's regime. We're paying them and arming them, not bombing them. This is really tiring. You have absolutely no idea what's going on in the region or its history--and our role in it, which is 100% oppressive and corrupt.<<

I asked you if they're a fit target for US Bombing.  Yes or No.  Yes or No, should we bomb on Al Qaeda in Syria?


>>I'm not "justifying" attacks on America to acknowledge that our funding authoritarians who oppress their peoples sometimes upsets people. As I pointed out, we had a revolution in response to less. As usual, you do not respond to this point.<<

"You're warped" is a response.


>>Your solution to people objecting to oppression is to oppress them more? Martial law in every nation we oppress until resistance is impossible? Again, more specificity from you would be helpful.<<

What objection to oppression are you referring to?  Nonterrorism?  Nonthreatening us? 
I've been quite clear I'm satisfied with actual bombardment of enemy populations that help Al Qaeda.

>>The difference between SoCons and whoremongers calling on the state is the basis for the laws they support. You want bedroom police who care who you sleep with and if money is involved. He wants laws against murder and robbery enforced. The difference between these types of laws is not illusory.<< 

If he finds out the whores are selling marketing lists I'm pretty sure we'll hear an expansion of police powers from him.

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" They use a service that advertises themselves as an escort, and men either call or email them. Then they request your name, number (if they don't have it), and place of work. They use this information to verify a client's identity and do a background check. They may also request references from other prostitutes. Alternatively, prostitutes are also creating services that do the background checks for them, and clients pay a monthly fee to be white listed by the service."

smells like identity theft

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"You're comparing oil tankers supplying an enemy at war with US citizens living abroad living in residential neighborhoods, in nations which are not our enemies, which are not "at war" with or threatening harm to the US in any way. What are you talking about? An American watching television and eating with his family in Yemen, who trash talks the USA, is parallel to an oil tanker bound for Japan while we were at war with them? Yeah, that's a little bit of a stretch. That's ridiculous."

Fooey. Anwar Al-Awlaki urged attacks on US targets and encouraged the Ft. Hood shooter to wage jihad, and also corresponded with the guy who planted that truck bomb in Times Square.  He was not harmless.  Those were continued attacks on the USA during the past decade.  Also that underwear bomber in Detroit. 

"It's a fact that we've funded and even trained many Al Qaeda leaders and other "threats," some of which happened rather recently. Are you disagreeing with this fact?

>>It's a fact that nobody in Yemen is any threat to us whatsoever. Are you disagreeing with this fact?<<

That is a lie, as there is Al Qaeda in Yemen.  As you know.

>>I'm not "blaming" America. But I'm not supporting the terrorists it funds, either. I'm pointing out facts which you seem unaware of. You do realize that the US funded the oppression of the Iranian people before their revolution and new government which hates us and actively seeks to kill Americans when it can--which is only when we're in neighboring countries oppressing their peoples as well? You do realize that we actively fund authoritarians and tyrants all over the world, and that their peoples know that we're their oppressors' source of money and power, right?
It's a fact that we oppress people across the world--much worse than the British ever oppressed us, which we reacted to with revolution. Are you disagreeing with this fact?<<

^^ Blaming America.

You dance between arguing there is no threat, and then arguing the threat is our fault so we're wrong to fight it.
All your whining about US aid to the Shah is irrelevant if there is no terrorist threat.  Unless you're trying to explain why people who are no threat to us are our own creation?

" You ignore the violation of our rights--the law--and every time I point it out."

Nope.  I refuted it totally.  In every war we've had there have been restrictions on American speech, commerce, and life itself. That bit about the American Kraut in the Wehrmacht in D-Day in "Band of Brothers" - that wasn't invention.

The "endless" nature of the war is in part due to the halfass way its being run.  The answer is to war harder.

>>"Hell, to this day we arm and fund Al Qaeda in Syria. But you disagree! Everything is alright. Nothing to see here. Keep losing your rights while we bankrupt your nation. Because supporting Al Qaeda in Syria is worth economic collapse, in your opinion."<<

So? You don't think they're a threat - and then, you can point out we "meddled" in "the region" - justifying their hatred of us.  Let's get it straight with your own example - do YOU think Al Qaeda in Syria are a fit target for US bombs or not?

>>Laws and law enforcement are not exclusive to social conservatism, The Yell. I'm pretty sure this is a well-established fact.<

Yeah I wanted him to recognize that the difference he imagines between SoCons calling on the state, and freedom loving whoremongers, is totally illusory.  Given victory, he'll call on the State himself.