Of course it's illegal. You can't maintain a fascist government over people who can take care of themselves. It'd be ridiculously obvious how oppressive and tyrannical that government was.

Also, if you don't drink the fluoride and other poisons they put in the water, your kids won't be as stupid and docile and easy to control!

Fascists support amnesty is because it means more voters with no knowledge of America's founding principles rooted in individual freedom.

They achieve this by encouraging illegals to enter the US and giving them services with tax dollars. They want illegal immigrants to view the US government as their friends--they must be; they give illegals handouts which don't exist in their home countries! And they're not even citizens here!

Now, if they can get illegals voting rights, goodbye Mr. Educated American who knows what's so great about our freedoms. Democratic governance means that a majority of fascist babies naive enough to believe communist promises can vote fascists right into power.

Their goal is to run America (and its currency) into the ground and to then buy it up (real assets) at rock-bottom prices.

You seem to think this is some sort of America vs Mexico problem--that if Mexicans would just give up their identity, then it'd be okay. I think you are completely misguided. How much Mexican culture illegals do or do not bring with them, or how willing they would be to give up X amount of that culture for citizenship, is irrelevant.

What matters is why major political powers in this country want more of them and want them voting. Anything that draws attention away from this real threat is a distraction and a disservice to America.

I mean, you want people to have to give DNA, fingerprints, and photo IDs to the US government in order to gain citizenship? Funny, because it's unconstitutional for our government to have that data on citizens. Sounds like you've forgotten the big picture.

It's already here. It's been moving in for decades. Perhaps a century with the Federal Reserve.

Most regulatory agencies exist almost exclusively to raise the price of entry into markets and keep out competition.

Agricultural subsidies are not agricultural "protections." They're a way to rob the American people and give a portion of that stolen booty to people who fund campaigns year after year.

They're also a way to artificially inflate the cost of living in the United States in order to keep more people dependent on government handouts.

This comes with the added benefit of many of these people feeling that they're being robbed (because they are). The politicians who are robbing everyone then tell the ignorant trash that it's rich people robbing them, and that the politicians need more power to protect them. Thus, trashy idiots give the politicians who are robbing them even more power to rob them. Slavery is born.

This stuff happened under Bush too. It's been going on for decades.

But don't let that stop you. You don't pretend to have any idea what's going on, nor do you pretend to care. You just want to tell us your completely baseless, fear and hate filled ideas.

In this thread you've advocated the execution of the majority of Americans, including yourself. You're clearly insane.

"CONFIRMED: The DEA Struck A Deal With Mexico's Most Notorious Drug Cartel"
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-us-g … tel-2014-1

This stuff comes out all the time. The fact that you have no idea what to make of it and refuse to comment on it is just more evidence to my suggestion that you know NOTHING about this topic.

Einstein, I've posted arguments with evidence and explanations. All you've done is call me names, refusing to respond to a single thing I've said. If you actually thought I was wrong about something specific you'd call me out on it, I'd link a dozen sources confirming my claims, and you'd look like an ignorant ass. We'd do this until you firmly established that you don't know anything about the topic you've chosen to discuss here.

But you know you're wrong. You know that you know nothing about this topic. That's why you don't have the guts to actually disagree with a single statement I've made. That's why this thread is trolling/spam.

"I HAVE FAITH THAT POT IS SCARY AND SHOULD BE BANNED AND I'M BETTER THAN YOU FOR THIS BELIEF. FAITH TRUMPS FACTS." is not defeating libertarians in a dashing display of rhetorical or logical prowess. It's embarrassing yourself.

What's that? You haven't stated disagreement with a single thing I've said?

I clearly referenced the NASA scientist to demonstrate that anecdotal evidence is not worth much, if anything. I clearly explained this in doing so.

I can't have a discussion with you if all you're going to do is spam.

Bad parenting doesn't excuse putting kids on speed. It doesn't make it healthy. It doesn't make it good for children. It doesn't make these drug-pushing "professionals" an "authority" fit to judge what anyone should or should not put in their bodies. It's evidence to the contrary. You miss the point entirely.

You're conflating smoking a joint with amateur surgery. You're so desperate, your argument so nonsensical, that I don't have need to refute it.

You want to hang everyone to smokes a joint? Yeah, that sounds like a free society worthy of the name America. Again, your argument is so ridiculous that I don't have to provide any argument or evidence to show how ridiculous it is.

You want to kill everyone who smokes a joint. But cigarettes and alcohol, both proven far more addictive and far, far, far more harmful to the human body (and public safety, in the case of drunken driving) than marijuana, are perfectly fine left legal.

Your argument is openly hypocritical. You openly acknowledge that your position is not based on evidence or facts. You openly acknowledge that your position is based on ignorance and fear. I have no need to refute the arguments of someone who doesn't even attempt to make a logical argument to begin with.

You close your post with similar nonsense. "FACT" followed by falsehoods. You're terrified of something you know nothing about. Rather than educate yourself, you're eager to empower and enrich fascists. People like you voting in democratic societies is why we're $50,000 in debt per person, our economy is going to collapse, and why we wage foreign wars with absolutely no excuse of justification.

Hell, blind obedience to tyrants like yours even turns off some people from leading moral and righteous lives altogether. Many people are turned off from the prospect of moral codes at all, or the idea that anyone actually follows them, given such examples of hypocrisy and irrationality.

I don't mean to get personal; my point is that people like you ignorantly supporting fascism is incalculably more harmful to society than anyone smoking a joint. Now that's a fact.

Nonsense like this is what holds back society. Legislation based on ignorance. People having strong opinions based on ignorance and fallacious logic a child should not fall prey to.

Anyone exhibiting those symptoms was on other drugs, not just marijuana.

We have tens of millions of cases of evidence to work with to know the truth about marijuana. You're professing your faith in anecdotal evidence--that you saw some weirdo act out once and you think he was on pot.

Maybe he was. But that wasn't what made anyone violent nor caused symptoms of withdrawal. Supposed symptoms of marijuana withdrawl are that it has withdrawal symptoms similar to cigarettes--without anything near cigarettes' level of addiction. Supposedly it can make people irritable and lose sleep for a brief period.

Of course, that's the new, super powerful genetically engineered stuff that didn't exist until recently. Marijuana wasn't remotely this strong decades ago. Demonizing a plant which God put here on this beautiful green earth because of the relatively minor withdrawal effects of smoking a crap ton of its human genetically modified offspring which is 10,000 times more powerful than its natural variants is a pretty remarkable stretch.

There is no common good here, no overarching societal threat that requires laws to protect society, and that's why none of you can provide any such evidence. You haven't even attempted to, let alone done so, in this thread.

That's why references to alcohol upset you so much. It's a very strong example of your hypocrisy and lack of any regard for facts regarding controlled substances. It's far, far, far more harmful to the body and the mind. Fact. It's far, far, far, far more physically addictive. Fact. It impairs motor function and driving ability far, far, far, far, far more. Fact.

And, prohibition of this more harmful substance was such an utter failure that control freaks gave up the attempt to stop its consumption via the legal system.

That's why you hate it when people bring up alcohol. Because it's damn good evidence that you're in the wrong. You're okay with a more harmful (both to the body, to persons interacting with the intoxicated person, and on the road) substance being legal but are opposed to the legal consumption of something which is less harmful in literally every way. This highlights your ignorance, fear, and hypocrisy. This example highlights the fact that your entire position lacks logical argumentation.

The fact is, many nations have legal marijuana consumption and they're not falling apart. In fact, usage rate changes following legalization have been negligible everywhere it's been decriminalized/legalized.

You have no evidence to support your bizarre outlandish claims. You're propagandized and filled with fear because your masters told you to be afraid of the big bad joint monster. You believe Reefer Madness is a documentary. You know nothing about the topic; you're afraid of your ignorance and you take comfort in feeling self-righteous in denouncing others, because the same slave masters who told you to be afraid of marijuana told you you're a better human being than anyone who smokes it. This makes you feel good.

Neither facts nor evidence nor logic ever enters into you forming your opinions. That's why you never respond to evidence like this
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/bl … e-20121213
proving that the "drug war" is a joke not intended to reduce consumption, but drive up prices. That's why you don't cite any real evidence, but rely solely on anecdotal evidence of your admittedly extremely limited personal experiences to demonize this plant which you know nothing about.

Tens of millions of people smoke marijuana in the USA. More than a hundred million more used to enjoy it for a while. This is why polls are unanimous in trending toward decriminalization and legalization. People have tried it and it's nothing like you fear-mongers (who have never tried it) allege.

Nobody is advocating selling it to children. And nobody denies that being psychologically addicted to it (like video games) is healthy. But then, no psychological addictions are. Considering that it's less addictive than cigarettes and alcohol and far less harmful to the body, you've got no logical argumentation to support your hypocrisy and lack of regard for freedom.

So you call me names. And don't respond to rational evidence and argumentation. Carry on fear-mongering.

I didn't read your whole spam-ridden post, proclaiming to the world how proud of your ignorance you are and how much you desire fascism.

Most of everything you stated is factually false. Incorrect. Ignorant. Wrong.

You must be joking.

Clearly you meant to say "laws punishing people for using drugs." Since laws aren't stopping drug use. Prohibition and the fact that a majority of Americans have smoked pot are evidence to this point. The fact that a majority of Americans have tried smoking pot also offers insurmountable evidence that literally everything you say about cannabis is false.

Good jokes. Many addictive drugs are prescribed today. Many harmful drugs are prescribed today for disorders that don't exist. It's HUGE money. 20% of kids are on speed. Tell us more about how the AMA is an awesome organization which doesn't peddle addictive drugs to kids! You're 100% factually wrong, and this is a proven fact. But you're okay making things up, so pretend away!

Followed by ranting about opiates, additionally attributing wars fought over colonization to drugs. Completely off-topic and pointless.

False. Your ignorant rantings are not proof. That you had a psycho relative who smoked a joint once doesn't prove that joints make people psycho. The claim suggests that you're psychotic.

Completely false claim based on completely fallacious reasoning, as I have already thoroughly refuted on this very forum. Repeating yourself doesn't change the fact that you're lying and your statements are false.

As evidenced by what? You want us to take your word from it?

You just continually ramble about what you're going to prove and address, but you never do. You just lie and make up figures.

Great. Just what we need. A guy with faith on the other side to discredit people of logic and evidence.

It's always a good thing to lock up sick ****s.

But the notion that the only way to combat such abuse is through law enforcement is ridiculous.

Parents need to love and care for their children. People need to want to work and produce and profit and pull themselves out of poverty.

Police forces can only attempt to combat this stuff to some small percentage of success. Especially with abuse happening across international borders. Parents can have 100% success protecting their children. The real solution here is cultural. People need to stop being so trashy. We, as societies, need to stop being so tolerant of trashy behavior. Nothing can protect children from trashy parents.