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Hey Hydrop And Ws I Got A Question :
Whatever Happened To The Deal You Guys Made? You Just Attacked Just Like That, Without Talking To Ws First? How Did You Know We Were Going To Jump For You And Not For Someone Else? Normally If Ws Is A Man Of His Word He Wouldnt Have Allowed This And You Probably Would Have Asked Him What The Fleet Jump Was About, Since You And Him Talk Usually , No ?
Its Just Too Funny Really, This Theatral Performance Is So Pathetic :d
Actually WS , you were the only want who did not want to fight 33 because of the deal you made with them.
How is this doing only "what i care"?
Also, what decision did i make for the family? YOu made the decision for them when you deleted.
I am still unsure how it would have helped us if you would have been still here.
Are you trying to say 33 would not have hit us ? or what?
WHat would have happened if you wouldnt have deleted? Would you have stand and watched how 33 is attacking all the banker shares? I thought you and 33 had a deal.
Didnt they ask you before about this deal ?
Today 01:22:28
The Riddler
Player
Re: Our relations with 6938 have been broken
I don't care what his argument is/was. I am not here to defend him. I am here to defend MY actions.
1. We had infils running on your fam as soon as we found out your war was off
2. we seen aid given to you and middle
3. the next tick we see a lot of that gone
4. we discuss quickly and decide we will clear you from our shares and offer your fam a NAP without touching bankers
5. no answer to nap means we clear your bankers/ressers
6. you whine like a little girl and call IA/spying/leaking info because you cannot fathom that people would possible be paying attention to your fam
Now I know, you are too stupid to actually understand any of this. I don't care about your beef with WS or anyone else in your fam. It does not pertain to me. When he deleted I wanted to know why. He said it was because he refused to hit my fam and that you went off a rail (acted out like a 6yr old) and told him to delete.
Genius move moron. Make your best attacker delete, then blame him and everyone else for the fact of what is happening instead of stopping to realize that maybe your mouth and shady moves are the ones that caused it.
and stan of course...he played a huge part in this.
god , the bullshit-o-meter is off the scale 
2. we seen aid given to you and middle
3. the next tick we see a lot of that gone
Middle got aid, tick 38, you cleared all shares with him, tick 38
YOU SIR ARE A LYING BITCH 
do me a favor, stop trying to convince me
i dont need convincing, the others, maybe, yea
You're a shitty liar WS a very shitty liar.
I made two posts in the forum about 33 hitting us.
One was saying that i do no trust you anymore and i do not want to play with you because im sure you and hydrop talked about us planning to hit them.
After than you went and said, if you want me to delete, say it.
And my reply was "delete if you want" and poof you went.
"Anyway would have been fun but when you have players in the forum like Stan & Glue ranting all the time, then dare me to delete I showed him haha"
You know for a fact i havent ranted once in forum this round.. how can you actually lie like that and the people actually believing you its.. LOL
SO pathetic people actually think i made WS delete )
This guy is looking for excuses each time things do not go his way.
You see, i just got you where i wanted you
I couldnt just go and say, hey WS called Hydrop and told him.. you just made it pretty clear, that WS actually made an argument about how he was not in chat and how he could not leak any info to 33.
But i guess its pretty clear now, that his argument is just a pathetic attempt to salvage anything.
In the end im not mad at him deleting, he choose which side he is on.
And the final note is this :
WS has no idea who wanted this war and who didnt, you just found the guy to blame, which is cool , im just probably the only one giving a shit.
Hey shithead, ive been talking too nicely to you, but it seems you're mentally handicaped or something or just a plain , how Primo would say it, Hillbillie.
I am going back to a statement WS made earlier where he said. "I couldnt have told 33 anything, i wasnt in chat the last 3-4 hours i was at work"
HYdrop's statement now : "And what WS told me after he deleted is that you were in a tirade that there was a deal in place that you didn't like"
So how is it afterall, you couldnt tell 33 anything , could you?
WOW only a moron like you would actually understand that from this situation I really think that, common sense and like a PROPER fuking education is too beyond you :@ <== ICD
I cant count how many times, WS told me what your family was doing, jumping a pop banker, or waring some family.
We knew before, that you would raid 38 at SOR.
But hey this is nothing just a normal field day.
It's funny that you blame my actions when a few posts before you said you saw Middle get aided.
Suddenly my actions ruined my families round ?
You are just throwing shit around so you lose some of this heat your picking off
EDIT : on a second note, you are clearly ignoring every dirty little thing im throwing at you.
All your attackers got fleets today, specifically to clear Middle, dont lie, really, infiltrates dont lie
Really?
You fought every family we fought and won after us , its the only way you could have gone up. Im pretty sure the reason you made this deal with WS not to attack eachother and Remo i think, not sure to what extent, was so me or middle would not hit you.
You just make yourself look like a moron "when 34 said, come take our planets , we went" : that's just another proof
Im so sorry i dont do my usual thread with the NW check
Every one of your attackers was smallerl in networth a few hours ago than they are now, i dont get it why your lying, really.
Again, its just.. LOL how you still claim you did not make any deals with our family not to attach eachother, i still have the msg you sent me you moron :@
All you can do is insult people.
What word did WS stick too exactly?
Actually, 33 got tipped off earlier and cleared one of our attackers from the many shares he had.
WS deleted because he wanted an excuse to delete, and to be honest why should we keep WS? its clear he told 33 of our plans, he would have done more of this.
All i am going to reply to both of you is this :
WS : you turned 180 degree's from like i dont know, 3-4 hours ago in chat, bad mouthin and blaming me for your actions is just.. you're not a man of your word, you just like to think that you are. You deleted at the first chance you had, you were looking for an excuse.
Hydrop : Its unbelievable how you just come here to bragg how you or Colorado figured out our plans and seen Middle get aided
When Middle got aided you already had your attackers jumped, you got tipped off way earlier and planned this, because you and your attackers, cleared Middle in a joint effort.
You are just full off bullshit like always.
And you're actually acting like a 15 year old kid screaming "I'm not a shady player, glue is, glue is"
And at last : I dont need proof, i know what happened, i dont care if people believe me or you. the only thing you are actually good at is thinking you can fool people over an intenet game.
And ofc, we can build fleet - attack other people, have no job or work from home, always on a PC, 20h a day activity and hurray im ze biggest attacker ever :@
As i was telling Orbit earlier, all you screwups did this round (33) was farm the families we and 38 fought before, like 40/34/31
Oh and.. another thing : defending WS that much only makes it clear that he's guilty
How is this possible, seriously?
You're bad mouthing me in forums because WS deleted out of his own family after he gave you information about our family?
My god, you actually think people are stupid and are going to believe your load of crap?
Chomp, do everyone a favor and stop posting shit about others, you're not exactly the one to talk
Today 23:32:10
The Riddler
Player
Re: Our relations with 6938 have been broken
"My mamma didn't raise no fool"
Why would 30 (who just cancelled their war with 38) aid a BUNCH of stuff to their attackers when their only able target is either 35 (NAP) or 33 (no NAP) ?
Answer: They want to hit us
Solution: Hit them first
Cheers pricks
Some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn. ~Alfred Pennyworth
Online
You do realise you posted this, after you already had WS give you all the information from our family and of course, he leaked some from your side as well, but yeah we dont know if this is true or not.
Regardless of our plans WS, you in some way [sideways tango'ed] us the same way as Stan did.
You and the people from 33 have been making under the table deals all round, and we always closed our eyes to that.
Yes i did tell you to delete, what's the point in keeping you, you can easily copy paste our entire forum or mirc conversations to hydrop or the bloody offline forum we have.
I'm not even going to bother to whine to someone about this (mods or whoever), people already know how you and hydrop play.
Its just so funny that you actually tell me in a message that you have nothing to do with this, than post in our forum that you have inside information from 33.
How do you get your iside information so fast , unless of course your trolling, if you were trolling, that just means that you didnt care for this family at all and for all the hard work, everyone put in, and just decided to help 33 instead.
pathetic.
Haha inddd
ICD, pussy out from a fight? 
dont worry, it will be just like your war with 40, 2x the savings 3x the fleet size
fair no?
Very Pity
but 35 ar gonna get their asses raped now!
Im sure we arent the only ones screwed by Stan lately.
But yeah, he's Noir's fanboy so yeh
If he can login to post in forums he could login to aid.
Hell he traveled to USA for the holidays and was still online alot. He's just happy he got to screw us.
Actually, it's not that bad
WE did not tell him anything. we discussed with him (remo did not me) and he said he would aid out his savings to the attackers before war.
WE found out from 38 that he was in vmode.. because we cant check ourselfs.. we can even attack him....
What can you do if he says he will help and he doesnt ?
We cant do anything, he already was savings for 5 days at that point.
i hope this is clear, we did not tell stan to go into vmode he did it, i dont know why and it doesnt matter why at the moment.
sigh.. ^close this
I really, really dont get where your going with this Ritchie ?
What did you understand from all the discussion here?
We all agreed to fight 38, Stan (our banker) included, he was actually bitching we did not do it earlier. Would this story sound much better , if i was to say that he lied to us every minute?
What does longest issue with a second banker mean anyway? 
He was pissed at us naping a smaller family , people get pissed but you still expect them to do the right thing, especially when they agree is the correct move to make..
Imagine he makes over 20 mil a tick.. for around 5 days of savings ? it's over 2.5 bil gc. we try to lock the market (wasnt the best move imo) and wasted alot of cash on that. So his aid, was imperative.
ICD stfu really.
The setup has nothing to do with this and this is my opinion, i really dislike you moaning about this in every thread you can.
You made a thread/ a petition, stick to that.
Thank you
Tobias and Chomp and who else wants to investigate this.
I want to make it clear that we "30" i hope i speak for everyone , do not want any investigation to be done. I personally did not talk to Stan about this and i dont know why he did it.
I hope he had his reasons i hope they're not childish , from our discussions he seems like an ok guy.
Anyways as i said we offered to pay 38 planets for this war , because one way or another .. im gonna get em im gonna gonna get em (like the song) .
Now let's stop discussing, we cant make our player aid out if he doesn't want too. It's shitty and its unfair and it takes the fun out of the round and bla bla bla.
It's not the first time it wont be the last time, we need to move on, there will be other rounds and other times we can fight it out
And Torqez, sry for the bitching part, you were defending the mods i was defending WS
everybody is burnt out (after dunno.. half a round) and pissed about this , hope you understand.
Torqez you dont need to bitch at WS, its not his fault, and it's not your fault or the moderators.
Ive told Remo and Timmy my thoughts and i made it clear since i heard Stan went into vmode (without any prior warning) that we could not match you in this war.
I'm not sure what caused his actions to be honest, he has been a dick sorry for that all the round with certain people, but you learn to not to get affected by that, apart from that he brought alot to the "well being" of the family infra wise so hi's dickish character compensated alot.
I think at some point we naped 6939 and Stan was actually pissed at Remo for deciding not to farm 39 for a louzy 100 planets.
Since that one or two weeks ago, Stan stopped joining our family chat and i personally haven't seen or talked to him in ages.
I dont know if anyone else talked to him, i would imagine not, WS or MIddle or myself did not send him any "hate mails" or actually bad mouth him in any way.
So i dont think he was butthurt about anything else and i dont know if he had a good reason for this.
All he did yesterday from what i see in family news, was aid out 20 mil to GS at some point, and then he was in vmode, no warning , nothing.
I for one am not looking at moderators to change because of this (my opinion), his actions pretty much ruined any chance we had of winning this war, because i agree with WS, id rather lose the fight than not fight at all, especially since this was pretty even till a point.
6938 proved that they are the true winners of this round, regardless the way it was won, im sure they dont wanna be looked at like the guys who won by "handicap " but in my book, they are.
Congrats
now let's rape 35 WS!
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