I think since Pie doesnt love us old vets that it is time for us to leave and make way for the new.

This way IC can have nothing but new n00bs that dont know how to play and thus you have what the NFL ended up having after they changed rules to equal the playing field which is plain old mediocre teams instead of the great dynasty days of old.

@nolio
^^^ This. The overall skill of MW is horrible.

^^^^^ because you have not retired yet, if you retire the skill level would go up about 50% over all

If you want IC to "actually" be considered a "WAR" game again then go back to the old ways that you quote so much.

Do away with the 40% rule so anyone can attack anyone because after all war is war and America is not limited by a 40% rule that will not let her attack a tiny island like Granada.

Do away with the rule that keeps an attacker from being put into pmode on new planets, if I can get into a fams core and have half my planets taken and get pmoded then too bad for them.

Anyone with any common sense know wars are not JUST FIGHTING.

There is always building up to prepare for war. Thats the eco part of war.

Then there is the diplo part

The bible that I wrote many years ago even says
Luke 14:31 what king, going to make war against another king, sitteth not down first, and consulteth whether he be able with ten thousand to meet him that cometh against him with twenty thousand?

Then and ONLY then after you have prepared the eco and diplo has not worked and you have counted the cost do you GO TO WAR

ONLY fools go to war not knowing if they have a chance to win and cause needless death to their people.

so anyway claim old school all you want IC is no more old school and has not been for at least 4 years when they started the political correct CRAP of not allowing bigger fams to rape pillage and farm anyone they wanted to which is real life.

oh well, in the end we played it perfectly, and the stars aligned for the god of IC and now its just a waiting game for the results already known to be actually accomplished

and yes we will have a plan in case you dont jump and in case you do either way we will be able to war first tick

OK death we decided to do it

Our relations with 7882 have been broken. Attacks and offensive operations may resume in 48 weeks.
Our relations with 7873 have been broken. Attacks and offensive operations may resume in 48 weeks.

Yes Mizzle I remember HydroP back in the day losing 15mil droids within 2-3 ticks in PW against the PW n00bs haha

Then next round in Andro Lee ran his figs hehe

I guess he needs some Legendary training from the master attacker huh

so VOTE everyone for HydroP as the failcup winner before it even gets started

damn is some of my divine intelligence rubbing off on you?

You hit that one right on the head Sol

Yes and I agree that everyone should

anyway I guess this thread can be closed ???

@Pie

This is where we disagree on paying planets, we knew we were not ready to war so I came up with a fair number of planets to give that would not hurt us and also instead of us being knocked down to where other fams like 73/82 and 79 and other top alliances could even take more easily we decided to go this route. Your route of not paying is why we are still a TOP fam and alliance and your fam and alliance is not

This game is both war game to show skill, also eco game to show skill, and also diplo game to show skill. I think my diplo plan worked out great for our fam and alliance

So say what you want at least we still have the chance to win the round at at worse have a great eor war

Guys quit hammering Lee for his decision, This is a war game, he has done nothing wrong.

So now, lets see what happens, I mean there are all kinds of things associated in a war game from plain old war, diplo, etc etc