>>The U.S. invaded Iraq because Iraq was THOUGHT to have been developing
weapons that IMPLICITLY threatened U.S. foreign interests.

Russia invaded Georgia because Georgia ATTACKED an area in which Russia
had government employees*. Georgia ASSERTED itself and EXPLICITLY
threatened Russian foreign interests.

How are these two situations not the same? How is it that the U.S. can do what
it did, but when Russia does (essentially) the same thing its a 'bad guy'?<<

Yup, because Russia acts against American interests and therefore should get what Iraq got.

>>* Government employees = Peace Keepers, but i changed the name so you
   could keep up...<<

So what? They are foriegn invaders openly working for the separatists to support Russian conquest of Georgian territory.  They should be killed, and a sensible American government would be working on the project.

>>Not just citizens -- they had actual peace keepers. I'm not sure if they were
armed or not (either way i don't care) though.<<

If Somali pirates called themselves "peacekeepers" would we have to look the other way when they steal and kidnap for ransom?

> "independence" is in the dictionary, skoe.

Are you suggesting South Ossetia does not want independence from Georgia?
Even to get it, they are willing to join Russia.

Thus THEY ARE NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE .

Sorry but i don't know how else to get that across .<<

Yeah, its frustrating to argue in English when you make up the meanings of words.

yeah the 1991 cease fire was conditional. In hindsight we should have marched on Baghdad in 1991 and let the Arabs occupy and rebuild.  But USSR was still around, and we decided to mollify Moscow and Beijing and not use the UN to topple govts.

"independence" is in the dictionary, skoe.

apparently is gonna jerk me around "til the end of time"

pompiedompiedom

>>Re: russia - georgia> They have not been keeping peace. They have supported, armed
> and trained ethnic Russian separatists.

Exaggeration and accusations without facts. You must be an American
conservative! .

> No. They want to be part of Russia.  They have Russian passports. 
> Their parliament has asked Moscow to annex them.

What i said, and what you are saying here, aren't at all mutually
exclusive. Please read before posting.<<

Sure, they are joined by the Ruski plot to stimulate a revolt in Ossetia on behalf of Moscow.

>>
> It's Georgian territory, not Russian, and Russia was mobilized
> to attack from Day One.

Firstly Russia was caught off-guard and with its pants down. Secondly of
course they are ready to attack. Just as the U.S. is ready to attack Cuba.

Its called 'planning N shit'.<<

We do not have 2 armored division ready to roll into Cuba on 12 hours notice, as Russia did.

>>> This all adds up to a good scenario for the use of chemical warheads by
> Georgia against the 4 Russian divisions in the region.

Your absurd and narrow-minded point here must be a joke. And, by the
way, any government that uses chemical warheads should be wiped off of the
face of the Earth. No exceptions.<<

You will do nothing but talk.

>>> Russian troops in Georgia since the '40s are not 'peacekeepers' and have
> never been anything but hostile to Tblisi.

Please pickup a history text-book. Preferably one that wasn't written by an American.<<

Only a Stalinist text would ignore the fact that Georgia was not even the Tsar's until the 1830s, as any student of Pushkin knows.  Also that in 1919 Lenin gave the Caucausus freedom from Moscow, but that Stalin in 1925 under pretext of Western aggression (sound familiar) conquered it.  Also that in the 1940s he brutally oppressed it for supporting Hitler.  Also that despite the rise of Georgians through the USSR it remained a grumbling slave into the 1990s.

>>I'm suggesting Russian peace keepers have been in that area since the collapse of the
Soviet Union. <<

They have not been keeping peace. They have supported, armed and trained ethnic Russian separatists.

>>They, the people of that region, have always wanted to be independent of
Georgia -- and they HAVE been. For more then 15 years.<<

No. They want to be part of Russia.  They have Russian passports.  Their parliament has asked Moscow to annex them. 

"Eduard Kokoity, president of the breakaway republic of South Ossetia, says that he is

agrees with me this show should have been entitled "From Ass"

I mean if you ever seen autopsy pics from that case or read the Ripper's letter then running out to a naked woman for some nooky is the last thing you'd feel up to

I hear in certain back alleys you can get those 5 hrs on the black market <.<  >.>

tried to pitch ArmpitHero but nobody would OK use of their songs

braids his armpit hair into pigtails with rubber bands

nope. russia is wrong, and I hope we can start a war with them.

they shoved their "peacekeepers" in to protect rebels and promote secession.

Funny how that works out, Russia sends in "Peacekeepers" and then stokes up its ethnic nationals, carves up Georgia and "ethnic cleansing" happens while they occupy the place.

Who sold KORNETs to Saddam? Who is selling SAMs to Iran? Who wants to outfit Chavez with the whole catalog? Do you think I'm stupid? My govt is stupid.