876

(13 replies, posted in Politics)

"When the Arabs decided to migrate into the "Palestine lands" (which had been mostly vacant up until the start of the Jewish immigration into Israel there was but minor conflict at first."

This statement is kinda, uhm.... wrong.
The Palestine lands have been populated for ages, and have always been contested and switched hands between empires countless times. When the Israeli state was enforced by the UN in November 1947 on British territory (Palestina) that had been populated by a mix of cultures, the indiginous Palestinians even filed complaints but were ignored. In fact, the area was already in a tense situation due to unrest between Arabs and Jews that populated the regions.
Real conflict (in the form of war) started the next year, in 1948. During this conflict, also known as Al-Nakba (the catastrophe) to Palestinians, 750 000 Arabs were forced to flee, 400 Arab towns were destroyed by the Jews, and only 160 000 of the 850 000 Arabs who lived in now Israeli territory were not driven away from their land. All their previous possessions were confiscated by the Jews (through Israeli legislature). In 1949 a resolution was signed to deal with the Palestinian refugees: even though Israel signed this, it was hardly acted upon. (the Arab states did not sign the resolution)

From this point onwards Israel has always maintained an agressive, racist and inhumane stance towards Arabs.

To say that these areas were largely vacant until Jewish immigration into Israel is an outright lie.
To say that the Israeli state came into existance with only minor conflict is an outright lie.
To say that Arabs only then migrated into "Palestinian lands" is incorrect as well.

"When the Arab nations launched the attacks we supported Israel with arms because we had issues elsewhere. Israel kept winning against the odds, which supports our Biblical belief structure that they still remain cherished by God."
Your statements make it sound like the Arab states were the agressor, they were either provoked by Israel's agressive stance and discriminating behavior against Israeli Arabs or Israel was the agressor.
Being at a disadvantage in numbers does not always mean the odds were against Israel, they were better funded and used more high-tech equipment for the time. Not to forget they were FAR better organized.


Israel still maintains a highly discriminating stance towards Arabs nowadays



"That they remain more noble than those who attack them reinforces this. Israel only attacks in retaliation for attacks. Their opponents are not so kind."
Israel violates human rights on a daily basis and is extremely racist, saying they are "noble" is laughable. Heck, they even aren't afraid to use some illegal weaponry to "teach those Arabs a lesson".

"Israel has tried to 'build the peace' as well, with job offerings, infrastructure, and more. That they still try even as those offerings are often destroyed shows the character of both sides."
Efforts to build peace? Such as constantly colonizing more land in Arab-designated areas? They only make efforts for peace when they themselves are not the ones paying for it. Laughable.


"That those of us who know the true history, and do not believe the propoganda designed to alter that history, support Israel because it has always been kinder, nicer, more restrained, and more noble than their opponents."

It is in fact you who has fallen to the propaganda.
Not to say the Arabs have never done anything bad to the Jews or mistreated them: they have mistreated the Jews in the past, currently hold a racist view towards them themselves (largily due to the conflict with Israel) and have shown agression in the past and present (however, not unprovoked many a time). However, to state that Israel deserves support because Israel is a "noble" state which has only reacted upon agression from other states, just proves how brainwashed you are.

877

(18 replies, posted in Politics)

euthanasia can be performed in many ways, the key factor being that it is a death that does not make the organism suffer. By saying that rats do not deserve euthenasia, can I conclude that you are in favor of animal cruelty? Or at least not opposed to it?


examples could be carbonmonoxide poisoning (in your beloved gaschambers) or just an opiate overdose, which in the rat's case (as they are small organisms which would require small amounts of these substances to result in death) would not have to be as expensive as you claim, given you choose the right chemical.

Then again, politicians are not chemists and are all too often completely clueless when it comes to anything regarding exact sciences...

878

(58 replies, posted in Universal News)

woot go hoity big_smile

879

(518 replies, posted in Universal News)

Insane is mine and mine alone!

muhaha

880

(18 replies, posted in Politics)

"without any traps that glue, snap, or crush anymore"

so just poisoning them is still allowed?


i can see why you'd ban a lot of the other methods cuz they are just plain cruel, in some cases leaving an animal stuck in a half alive/half dead position for hours on end.

881

(518 replies, posted in Universal News)

:\ sorry to hear.

882

(518 replies, posted in Universal News)

humi, did you bring frenzy? yikes

883

(518 replies, posted in Universal News)

Map size: 100x100 across 4 sectors
^looks like something went wrong there with the sectors tongue

884

(26 replies, posted in Drafting)

My mommy says I'm special.

885

(119 replies, posted in Politics)

> Zarf BeebleBrix wrote:

"The law would not "shut down" foreign sites... however, it would allow the sites to be blocked within the US, so the site could be accessed everywhere else (by the way... perfect opportunity to raid American bankers by getting the US to block IC just before a war, then raiding their planets while they are unable to access their accounts... evil... but effective!)"



Haha yeah seems incredibly easy to abuse! although the abuse could be used in more serious ways... don't like a company? post a link in their forums and get their website blocked! (although, does it work like that?)

It's a relieve they aren't blocked for foreign countries though, the info i've had so far almost made it seem that way, especially with the states trying to pressure european countries into adopting similar legislature.

Now... to make a list of people who live in the USA, or more importantly, who don't, to draft the perfect SOPA-abuse fam >:D

886

(119 replies, posted in Politics)

so, wikipedia being down has brought my attention to this issue...  as it's really lengthening the time i have to study tongue. good move on their part i guess, to draw everyone's attention to this.
however, to get a good picture of it before i form an opinion, can someone please explain it in detail?

does this proposed law affect foreign sites/people? if so, how?
does it allow american companies to shutdown foreign sites? even if this legislature collides with legislature in the country of origin?
does it allow foreign people/companies to shutdown american sites?

and most importantly, how does the process of getting a site shut down work under this law? What exactly is required for a site to be shut down? Is there a need to get information examined by a judge in a court case, or is the opinion of an investigative bureau enough to get a site shut down?

887

(64 replies, posted in Politics)

I'll give it a shot, if I have enough time to spend when this starts tongue

888

(5 replies, posted in Strategy)

the calcs are incredibly easy...

[New Cost] = [Originial Cost] / (1+[construction science percentage]/100) * [amount of units]


so if we take 1739 fighters, for instance, at 89% con:
gc: 200/1.89*1739 = 184 022 (rounded up, really it's something like 184022.1640211...)
iron: 15/1.89*1739 = 13 802
endu: 1/1.89*1739 = 921

889

(99 replies, posted in Universal News)

lol wow this war sure is a lot of fun to follow as an impartial observer tongue

890

(99 replies, posted in Universal News)

what can i say, guess he ain't just that good.

891

(99 replies, posted in Universal News)

nap being signed ingame doesn't prevent SOT's or infils, as they are not considered offensive ops by the game tongue.

892

(4 replies, posted in General)

wtf is this 7 letter Lingo, heresy i say!

893

(13 replies, posted in Universal News)

no one gives a shit about nw and score tongue

894

(58 replies, posted in Universal News)

Jah 5515

1. Most aggressive family


2. Family with the best theme/pictures/names
Farming tools 5517! Loved the theme tongue

3. Best attacker
Genesis 5520. Both Genesis and Torqez showed some nice attacking, but my vote goes to Genesis.

4. Family with the best economy (resource/bankers)
I must say our economy was spot on during the first so many weeks, however after that it slacked.
So i'll vote for 5507 instead.

5. Best Leader
arsy! (5515)

6. Most interesting war
Since i wasn't around for 15/20 vs 21/22 i can't vote for that one, so i'll say 15/20 vs (07/)16

7. Favorite quote/chat log
both of the chats of our alliance were filled with too many good quotes to pick one from tongue. although that one from homestead 5515 is definitely in the top 5!

8. Biggest surprise
5510's implosion at the end.

9. Biggest mistake
Drafting in as "second attacker", then being stuck as main attacker for the entirity of the round (except the last war cuz i wasn't there tongue).

10. Family that disappointed
5517 in a moral way.

11. Biggest troll of the round
Jets 5520 and his 2vs2vs2 proposal tongue.

12. Favorite forum poster


13. Best diplomat
Nolio 5520

14. Worst decision of the round
Being "second attacker", as mentioned above tongue.

15. Best new/returning player
Homestead 5515! active as hell and eager to do stuff that no one else wanted to do tongue.

16. Best random
Again, Homestead 5515!

17. Best family not in the top 10
5524 bara's one man army.

18. Best alliance
15/20

19. Worst alliance
10/17

20. Worst leader
H4e, although he wasn't his fam's real leader for long he was always a pain in the ass to deal with... although he normally is.

21. Most dishonorable action
basically everything 10 and 17 pulled off tongue

22. MVP of the round


23. Best opper
Hoity 5515 did a damn good job as a pax killing pop, cpff'ing and oh'ing non stop.

24. Round rating: 1-5 (5 being the highest)
4

895

(872 replies, posted in Universal News)

congrats to our allies!

896

(61 replies, posted in General)

Voting Arnor, for tradition's sake!

897

(61 replies, posted in General)

still no story...? :\

898

(61 replies, posted in General)

/me joins

899

(126 replies, posted in Universal News)

lol how sad....

wow that's some amazing reserch o.O