Yet if it was a church no one would have been offended Justinian.

Non-existent entity? While the entity of Islam exists and it needs a place to gather worshipers, these American Muslims are paying taxes, no places of worship, many worshipers go abroad, taking their taxes with them plus any companies they run/own.

Why is non western barbarian in your eyes? That shows a narrow minded view point that borders on the scary.

My point in regards to the Mosque is where do you draw the line? It is not on the site of the evil terror attacks merely in proximity. If they are not allowed to build where they want to where do you suggest? Is there a real distance where a Mosque stops being offensive?

If they wanted to build it on the 9/11 site I would happily help burn it down as it would be incredibly insensitive, but they dont.

The Imam looking to build the Mosque made an ill advised though not factually incorrect statement. The foreign policy of America DID contribute to the terror attack. Osama Bin Laden believes (mistakenly) in his cause of freeing up the Arab world from American influence, I dont agree with him, I believe the man is evil, but if America had no influence there the attacks would not have taken place.

Finally you claim this is a trophy site sought by your enemy. Who is your enemy? Al Quieda or Islam? To my knowledge there is not a single member of Al Quieda pushing for this Mosque, which would infer that the people who are are classed as your enemy by the fact they are Muslim.

I am a Christian, I believe in evolution as the tool God provided (as did Darwin) however Einstein has raised a very good point.

How many of us have spent time in a lab analysing carbon dating, fossils and evidence?

Too many "facts" people accept are merely statements repeated lots by different people, our evidence is coming from "but it was written down in a science book" for too many things now.

An evolutionist who accepts it without taking part in research is no different to a creationist accepting the 7 day creation without applying logic.

Keep an open mind guys!

It always reminds me of Rambo 3 where he is riding with the noble Taliban to fight off the soviets.

TImes change though, it is naive to think any country is governed by morals, Britain and America have installed and supported brutal dictatorships only to then turn on them when they no longer served a purpose.

This is not neccesarily a bad thing, the role of a government is to provide for its people and further the countries aims - supporting militants when they are fighting an enemy (the soviets) makes sense.

So does removing them when they bite the hand that feeds.

They better not build a church anywhere near where Timothy McVeigh bombed Oklahoma City! Sacrilege.

Oh wait, no its only Muslims who are all terrorists.

To be fair its a religion whose followers are told to go into the world and convert people that has a history of violence and links to several terrorist organisations....oh wait I am talking about Christianity again!

The point I am making is as a Christian I find it laughable the way people automatically get hysterical over the word Islam. There are 1.2 billion Muslims in the world, 99.9% are peaceful yet they all judged by the 0.1% by some people on here.

They are not building a Mosque on the site of the world trade centre, there is a fairly large monument there, that means it is not offensive - if you get offended at a Mosque being vaguely near the site then you must be offended at Muslims occasionally walking near it, which means they shouldnt be allowed in new york! Which means they shouldnt be allowed in the USA! WE ARE WITH YOU KEMP! DEATH TO THE INFIDEL MUSLIMS!

Idiot.

Im basing this on a friends account of how his wife had complications and infection after pregnancy.
150,000 bill that his insurance apparently didnt cover (yes his fault maybe for not reading the small print)

I am not arguing private is better, it clearly is, my problem though is if someone cannot afford insurance or at least good insurance they can end up being bankrupted due to falling ill.

I pay national insurance as well as my private medical care and I dont mind. I make payments each month to cover hospitals, police, fire etc I dont mind, I can afford it.

If i lose my job I am not expected to keep up my national insurance payment but I am then still covered for ALL illnesses on NHS.

I like the additional level of security - I cannot understand the fear and paranoia from the press in the States. I saw articles showing Obama as both a communist and a nazi all because he was trying to help the millions of Americans currently with no health cover.

Yes they have the choice between massive debt or just getting on with it.

If you are in a position to afford medical then brilliant, I go private as I feel I have worked for it.

If I was poor though, its nice to know we can go to hospital for the birth of my child without having $150,000 bill

Well so far its a good game, cannot believe that the ref has missed Englands goal though, if we go out 3-1 I still think the game would have been hell of alot different if the ref had spotted it (like everyone else did)

Still fair play to Germany, their attack looks more dangerous, our defence is shocking.

You know as much as I think Germany will win how amazing would it be if we snuck it?

Dont forget Switzerland beat Spain
Serbia beat Germany
South Africa beat France
Slovakia beat Italy
and yes Ghana beat USA

Seems to be the World Cup of the underdog!

We have seen the early goal conceded by the States time and again, what impresses me is their heads never drop - they look to see how they can get back into the game.

You saw the difference between US and Eng, when we scored the US picked themselves up and tried to win, when US scored we looked like we were merely concentrating on not getting an embarrising loss against our names.

Yeah we reached the single game knock out stage

90 Mins

If tied then 30 means extra time

If still tied a penalty shoot out.