651

(82 replies, posted in Politics)

Just to make an incredibly short post about some in-content stuff going on here...

You_Fool, you do realize that the Paris Commune only lasted 2 months, yes?  Sure you want that to be your track record?  big_smile

*goes back to dealing with mod crap*

652

(82 replies, posted in Politics)

Regardless, you admit no additional value in everything but the Paris Commune (If I was to edit your post, I would have definitely left the Paris Commune thing there anyway).  When I asked about the value added, I was asking about the value addition of every comment except that (i.e., you don't get the right to spend 5 pages personally attacking someone just because you also showed them one instance of fact on some issue).

653

(82 replies, posted in Politics)

1: Whether they add value or not is not something you have the right to dictate.  If it is something serious enough to warrant moderator action, it is up to the moderators to make such a call.
2: That being said, there is one person you have 100% control over the actions of.  You.  So regardless of what you see as someone else causing a violation, you are still 100% responsible for your actions.  By your own admission, your posts add absolutely nothing to the forum.  Thus, you've just admitted outright that what you're doing, at best, is no better than the very thing you are criticizing.  TL;DR version: hypocrite.
3: There is something seriously wrong with this forum when the war hawk right-wing nutjob has to tell the left socialist "two wrongs don't make a right."  smile

654

(82 replies, posted in Politics)

Linking the other thread(s) may be a helpful way to illustrate your argument.  smile

655

(82 replies, posted in Politics)

Kemp, it may be a strawman argument, but whether or not it's a strawman argument is a political debate to be had.  i.e., if I were to enforce the rules, it would be ruling on an issue by deciding a pre-conceived conclusion on the political content of how a debate turned out.  It would be no different than if I were to say posts violated the "must have evidence to back up your claims" rule because a post used only Fox News, or if I called global warming skepticism posts trolling.  Even if I know beyond a doubt that you're right on this, shutting down the discussion because I know what the answer will be would be precedent for some of the worst moderation that could come to this forum.

Additionally, in this case, assuming a strawman fallacy is in effect here, it would just be much more valuable to let the debate evolve and show the fallacy, rather than erasing it, because it would mean you would have the evidence of the prior discussion to help support your argument in the future if/when it reappears (i.e., totally doing you a favor in the long run).


I'll say no more on this, and preemptively remind you about the rule against discussing forum enforcement in chat (though I'm not around in chat now, you can find me in #mod generally).

Note: Though I won't close the whole thread, I'll re-read his post for individual instances of problems.

656

(82 replies, posted in Politics)

Frankly, I read the couple posts you interjected and can't help but have a couple thoughts of my own.  But that doesn't necessarily mean I have to post said thoughts, does it... particularly when it adds absolutely nothing to the content of the discussion?

Tell me, what value do you think you're adding to this discussion with the above comment?

657

(82 replies, posted in Politics)

You_Fool, I hope you don't think your argument is made any more legitimate by the personal attacks.  X(

(Refraining judgment on whether I'm enforcing mod action here, but outside my official title, I'm just taking the moment to say you definitely could have made your argument without the jab there... making that attack makes you no better than exactly what you're accusing Flint of doing.) X(

658

(12 replies, posted in Politics)

Crossed the line so far that you can't see the line since it got up and ran to me crying over the big meanie that stepped all over it.  Warned, Flint.

659

(37 replies, posted in General)

Don't let Wendy play until she gets a note from her doctor that she's physically healthy enough for mafia!  big_smile

660

(13 replies, posted in Questions)

But under 9,000...

661

(122 replies, posted in Universal News)

Edit... out... coordinates!  X(

662

(66 replies, posted in General)

All I read from Wendy's post was "blah blah, I'm Wendy and I wreck things."

663

(23 replies, posted in Politics)

But that requires I do work... hmm

664

(23 replies, posted in Politics)

*pretends to be an actual forum moderator for 12 seconds*

Let's try to play nice, everyone!  Stick to issues, not the forum posters, please.

*takes off the forum moderator hat and jumps back into the fray*

665

(16 replies, posted in Ideas)

*yells at pie for bumping old threads* smile

666

(1 replies, posted in Ideas)

Yes, we need more ways to emphasize how wrong other people in forums are!  Especially since the forums don't allow us to capitalize everything in a post!  big_smile

667

(23 replies, posted in Politics)

> Einstein wrote:

> Insurance is known to increase costs Zarf, I have paid cash at some locations and gotten discounts for doing so. They do this because far less paperwork is needed. Additionally being able to 'shop' prices means a hospital 20 miles away which is cheaper will now be where you go instead of a hospital next door... when you need on going treatments.



Okay, two more questions:

1: Is that the only way by which insurance increases costs?

2: This stance counters a basic fundamental of economic theory that makes free markets work: rational choice.  If what you say is strictly the case, why have consumers on such a massive scale determined that health insurance is such a useful item that the industry has become so massive?  Where's the value added?

668

(23 replies, posted in Politics)

... that!  tongue


> Einstein wrote:

> My solution for healthcare is free market in nature.

1) Each individual must contribute a fixed percentage of their income to a  Permament Health Savings Account.

2) The money there can only be spent on Health Care related issues. This includes doctor or dentist visits, prescriptions, insurance, or the likes.





Distinguish this from the individual mandate.  (No, I'm not asking you to consider the entirety of Obamacare.  Just the one portion of the bill that says "everyone is required to buy health insurance.")

No, it just means you're both wrong.  tongue

I like how you did that...

"Here is my assertion of facts.  Here are the facts said game is purported to state.  Because a conflict exists between my assertion of facts and his assertion of facts, he is wrong because he is biased."  big_smile

What do I get to be an expert on if I'm fairly good at Civilization 4?

Did you just challenge him to a video game as a prerequisite to a debate?

If so, I challenge all medieval history thread posters to a Europa Universalis game, all military straegy debaters to games of Starcraft prior to debate start, and the ASPCA to a comparison of NintenDogs!  big_smile

673

(48 replies, posted in Ideas)

Moved to ideas.

674

(8 replies, posted in Politics)

*calls the Justice League*

675

(30 replies, posted in Politics)

Yes, there's a true evil in the world.  Roombas.