Im personally surprised most people posting here arent on one of these lists.

So easy to triple it in length...

Gratz man...

On a side note : Sad to see such few posts on a thread like this . It should have been at least a dozen pages long not that long ago.

> Ironwill wrote:

> I've been looking into how pointless pop banking really is lately.  I like the idea but even at 700% OB your still paying out the same or even more /building than a CF strat at 1500%OB so all in all, the very idea of a pop based system is pointless because you think your saving money because of lower OB% but you are not.  Hardest thing is also the fact that networth build deficiencies in play also effect a pop growth strat as well.  Your super high net/income ratio vs income/net makes it take longer and longer for a pop based banker to pay off their buildings in comoparison to a CF banker so you may be first in the galaxy on a surpurb pop based strategy but your actual advantage is far less in comparison to a CF'er that makes top 10.

Even a good pop based banker starts out at only a 1.5GC/net.  With TO's in play at max efficiency(which is actually not less than 50% TOs because you have to concider food prices involved in every LQ negates the advantage you gained from the extra higher gains of a 66LQ/34TO) your still at a 2.44 GC/net at best.  After you buy research to 66%+ you can push that up to 4+ gc/net.  But to do so means your building strat just took more than 48 ticks without OB to actually pay for itself.

CF strat with atleast 50% bonus you start out making 3GC/net.  Paired up with RC's instead of actually buying research, you can easily push that up to almost 5GC/net with less than 40% of the construction cost of LQ/TOs and a steadily decreasing % of RC's to maintain a high economy bonus.  OB asside, your buildings will take as little as 18-20 ticks to pay for itself.  Even after OB, you can have as much as 2.5X the OB of a pop strat paying simular prices on construction and making even more income with savings on food consumption and also be alot harder to kill.  There is no advantage to LQs except for the large net it brings and makes you look alot bigger than what you really are economically.

Yes... But once you consider the fact that a pop banker builds in jumps, it kinda makes a lot more sense econ wise. Yes... Building at 700% is expensive. More so than a cf banker at 1500%, especially if you consider the higher nw. But once you consider that the banker will build only till 300%, up con bonus, drop nw and JUMP to 700% (which is ridiculously high for a pop banker but lets say it for the sake of argument), a one time investment will pay far more than than any cf banker around.

Its pretty pathetic.

Switch allies for a war... Just to have the other allies stand by and help whenever possible.

Take them on one on one and if you lose, thats how the game is, better luck next round. Oh well...

wtf are people complaining bout the number of posts?

Makes the thread interesting to read.

More useful for small fams than larger ones.

Movies own your ass x(

Trinity was awesome

Oh and Batman in 86 (Pinwheel). Thats my contact. ll get you on msn or irc from there .

My major problem is that the fam will be spending a ton of cash early to make expos and pass them to a person who wont be building infra on them for like 3 days. Now, change that to explore fewer planets and fill them with cfs right away, and 2.5 days worth of cash from cfs. Plus, once lqs start being needed to raise pop, food will become important. Food is one of the few things a fam shouldnt really build early round cause they need to use the very limited resourses/space on iron/end etc which is needed for yet more infra.

Nandroh