Yeah.. and if you say "Hey, I'm going to play Starcraft, bbl," you're automatically out of the guild and sue you because you violated the contract they'll force you to sign!

3,627

(24 replies, posted in General)

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/detroit_pittsburgh_both_attempting?utm_source=a-section

3,628

(67 replies, posted in Politics)

Commerce clause.  smile

3,629

(24 replies, posted in General)

Try listening to airplanes taking off!  Much better music!

3,630

(67 replies, posted in Politics)

> avogadro wrote:

> "If that's the case... then even assuming they don't go bankrupt with a bailout, the industries are no longer contributing to society"

no, because all the people i have talked to isnt a scientific sample of the population, the fact that will alienate a large amount of the customer base, does not mean they will alienate all of them, just means their capacity to earn the owner's money will be limited.



Now I don't know what the hell you're saying the significance of this backlash will be, because you've backtracked on your stance.  "Oh, I talked to a bunch of people and they hate GM," then "Oh, don't believe what I said.  Sure, I talked to a few people, but not nearly enough for it to matter!"



If there is a significant public backlash against bailout companies, then they aren't an integrated part of the business community because they wouldn't be selling enough cars to where the supplier companies are making a profit anyway.

If there is no public backlash, then there is no penalty for businesses.

Remember, for your backlash to even matter, it has to be relatively similar in size to the bailout's size.  Otherwise, it is still net beneficial for the business to suck it up, take the loss of customers, and go for the bailout.


And one more thing: How many cars do you think Chrysler and GM would be making in the future?  Since car sales have dropped, there is a huge backlog of '08 cars for sale.  Supply and demand says those cars will drop to rock bottom prices (which has very much begun to occur.  For example, GM is closing a bunch of car dealerships in my neighborhood, and those dealerships are basically accepting whatever offer they possibly can).  Whether or not the government bails out the companies, the oversupply of old cars will mean a loss of demand for new cars for a long time, which means the companies are unsustainable.

3,631

(67 replies, posted in Politics)

> avogadro wrote:

> i agree, it does justify stupid actions on the part of businesses, but then again, everyone i've talked to about cars in real life has no intention of buying a chrysler or gm, and if the government bailed coke out, i bet they would loose a ton of customers too, i think the civilians are making them pay for their actions. my neighbor bought Chrysler his entire life, if he needed a car atm, he would buy a Ford.


If that's the case... then even assuming they don't go bankrupt with a bailout, the industries are no longer contributing to society, since society is buying other shit.  That means all those little industries that depended on Chrysler and GM don't depend on them anymore.

3,632

(67 replies, posted in Politics)

But that could be said of every major company in the US.  If Coca-Cola failed, a bunch of supplier industries would fail.  There has to be a bright line drawn somewhere.  Otherwise, it justifies stupid actions on the part of the businesses.

61 day later:

Arocalex: Hey, Summer!
SummerSexual: Do I know you?


tongue

3,634

(21 replies, posted in Politics)

> paashaas wrote:

> that is the worst example ever



Why?  It's only trying to demonstrate one thing: In a system where power transfers between people who disagree with each other on those fundamental issues, it is better for the older person to leave key issues to the newer person, rather than making key decisions which would force the new administration to stick with the policies of an older administration.


I could have used an example of health care reform, social security reform, or any other policy that creates long term commitment in its process.

3,635

(21 replies, posted in Politics)

Actually... um... leaving this for the new guy is EXACTLY what you are supposed to do.

Let's use an example:

Pretend that, on January 17, 2009, Bush ordered the US to invade Iran.  Four days into it, there's been significant progress, but the job isn't done.

Then Obama comes into office.  "Shit, shit, what do I do?"  Now he's gotta figure out how to reverse or redirect a sudden shift in policy which he had no preparation in organizing.  Essentially, he would be winging it.

That's exactly the problem here: Bush dealing with the issue would mean that Obama would have to either fight Bush or silently accept his policies.

3,636

(49 replies, posted in General)

Super Soaker

3,637

(67 replies, posted in Politics)

> Little Paul wrote:

> "The American people voted, its called "DEMOCRACY". If you don't like the end result,
move to North Korea."
zarf, its the other way around. Here you can disagree with any policy to a certain extend. tongue Ok, I know you were joking right.


Never said the US was a dictatorship.  My argument was very simple: When the issue is one of whether or not certain individuals should obtain an increase in wealth given directly from the government, whether through direct funding or through favorable legislation, without requesting a change in that individual's actions, you should take it with a grain of salt when someone calls the process that caused it "democracy."  That same system is the one voters complain about when legislators vote to give themselves pay raises.  In cases like this, the system would be better called "tyranny by majority."  tongue

3,638

(67 replies, posted in Politics)

> Morbo the Annihilator wrote:

> Its not about whats best. Its the peoples voice.

The American people voted, its called "DEMOCRACY". If you don't like the end result,
move to North Korea.



Democracy dies the moment people realize they can vote to give themselves money.

3,639

(67 replies, posted in Politics)

Doubt it.  The car would probably end up having a wine cabinet where normal cars had engines.

3,640

(28 replies, posted in Politics)

> Einstein wrote:

> Zarf you must have hid in a bowl yikes

2 sequels, a cartoon series, and a comic book series. Also a book series if your like me and prefer that method tongue



Nah, not really, I knew about it... I was wondering whose cage I would be first to rattle.  I was sure Skoe would beat you to the punch.  smile

3,641

(28 replies, posted in Politics)

Wait, they made a sequal to Starship Troopers?  Huh?

3,642

(22 replies, posted in Politics)

How do you store five multiplujillion dollars in a swiss bank account?  That must be hell on their accounting records.

3,643

(22 replies, posted in Politics)

Why the hell would you keep all your money in a vault anyway?  With no way that money is making a return on investment, the only market influence then becomes inflation, slowly eating away at its value.

3,644

(21 replies, posted in Politics)

> Justinian I wrote:

> Btw, I need to a ride in Seattle some time. I met a girl online who lives 35 minutes away from Seattle, and I'll pay for a ride from the Air port hah.



So begins Flint's slow transformation into a cab driver.  All that's needed now is [CENSORED-THERE IS AN EXTREMELY LOW PROBABILITY THAT THIS SENTENCE CAN BE COMPLETED WITHOUT BEING RACIALLY OFFENSIVE.  WE APOLOGIZE TO THOSE WHO MAY HAVE BEEN OFFENDED, SUCH AS [CENSORED-YOU'RE DOING IT AGAIN!  EPIC FAIL!]]

3,645

(21 replies, posted in Politics)

What the hell are you doing awake at this hour, Flint?

3,646

(35 replies, posted in Politics)

It's a manbirdpig!  Quick, we need to nuke the imagination to stop it!

3,647

(35 replies, posted in Politics)

What I laugh at is that people really think the guy RUNNING the department of health and human services would openly admit that swine flu was created in a laboratory.  That would be the most retarded shadow government conspiracy ever.

"Okay, we're ensuring the media spin goes our way... we've got the drugs ready to go... anything else?"
"Did you guys remind the guy who made the virus that he needs to keep this a secret?"
"Oh, shit!"


That third video is kind of like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkUH_ktWy44&feature=PlayList&p=0BB2DED0EAFE26FF&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=14

Sounds bad, right?  Oh, wait... it's called context!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Su3JIS9VbtY&feature=related

3,648

(35 replies, posted in Politics)

Some summaries:

#3, the so-called "proof" that the virus was man-made:
A quote from Dr. John Carlo, Medical Director DCHHS
The doctor is explaining the symptoms of swine flu, and that they resemble normal flu, except diarrhea can also occur.  Then he explains that, although normally swine flu is a pig-to-pig disease, it occasionally can jump to humans.  Then he says the quote:
"This strain of swine influenza that's been cultured in a laborato-" (the video cuts off the rest of the sentence)

This has been answered above.



#4 is actually not too bad: It's a call from Ron Paul urging caution regarding swine flu.  He cites a 1979 so-called "pandemic" that found the government quickly setting up a vaccine to fight it.  He and one other person (another physician) voted against the bill to issue the vaccine.  The result was that more people died from the vaccine than the disease.

Note: Even in this video, Ron Paul NEVER argues that swine flu isn't dangerous.  He actually says specifically that he isn't suggesting that.  The only thing he is urging is that we act with caution, and not let our emotions get the best of us.  That in no way is saying there is a giant government conspiracy to destroy everyone with swine flu vaccines.




I'm not going to go through numbers 1 and 5.  1 and 5 are each part 1 of two different 4-part series.  There's no way in hell I'm spending three hours transcribing shit.

3,649

(35 replies, posted in Politics)

I agree with Acolyte.  There must be a cute girl where you live who you could take to dinner and a movie.

And xeno... sorry, but I'm going to decline on that one.  I was going to start transcribing it for you, but it just got to be a pain in the ass, and frankly, probably utter garbage.


However, I will transcribe the second link for you, only because it's pretty easy: It's simply a black screen, with the following words popping up.

I have done some slight editting, only to correct the spelling and grammar issues in this.



We have established that the swine flu is man made.  Please see my 4 part video on my channel.  Some of you alraedy know this, but for those that don't, the drug which everyone will be rushing to get, even though it will have no effect whatsoever is called Tamiflu, also known as Oseltamivir.

I will add all the necessary links in the info for you to check.
DO NOT TAKE Tamiflu.

Authorities urge caution over Tamiflu fears.

Dated The World Today-Tuesday, 21 April, 2009
Reporter: Oscar McLaren
For now, though, the only country which sees Tamiflu prescribed on a regular basis for the flu is Japan, where there have been reports of children going so far as trying to jump from balconies after taking the drug over there.

Please see the link in info.

TAMIFLU CAUSES
NEUROPSYCHIATRIC
EVENTS IN THE BRAIN

Let's look at who owns major shares in Tamiflu.

Donald Rumsfeld
http://money.cnn.com/2005/10/31/news/newsmakers/fortune_rumsfeld

Bilderberg member George Shultz

In fact, the federal government is emerging as one of the world's biggest customers for Tamiflu.

Are any warning bells ringing yet?

Your illness=their profit

The world we live in today has been designed to create illness and war.

Because it makes evil sociopaths

Money

Please wake up






My response to this would be a few things:

A: How do they know Tamiflu is the prescribed medication against swine flu right now?  Most people have been taking orange juice and sleep to treat it.  I bet that's another plot by the government: the government is poisoning our oranges and planning on nuking our imaginations, right?

B: The Rumsfeld citation is terrible.
A: It's from 2005.  Shit changes between now and then with regard to stocks.  Until proponents of this theory bring a more up to date piece of evidence, it should be regarded as crap.
B: That was talking about Avian flu, not Swine flu.  That's like saying that a medication will work for the common cold, so we'll use it to treat AIDS.
C: The article itself says soldiers were going to be given Tamiflu.  That means, one way or another, this theory is empirically denied.  Either:
A: The soldiers were given Tamiflu, and since there haven't been reported cases of complications from Tamiflu in US soldiers since then, the medication is safe, or:
B: The soldiers were not given Tamiflu, which means even when Rumsfeld had the opportunity to profit from his position as Secretary of Defense, he didn't take it, so there's no reason the same drug that was rejected earlier would suddenly be propped up to fight Swine flu unless it was shown that Tamiflu was uniquely effective against Swine flu.
D: Read the article.  It cites a number of ways that Rumsfeld backed off of his connections with the drug company.  Let me make this clear.  HE WAS NOT THE DECISIONMAKER HERE.

3,650

(35 replies, posted in Politics)

First, where do you get that swine flu is a mix of the normal flu, bird flu, and swine flu?  Calling for a fact check here.