Dutcher! :D

ok u got me..

i r too loyal

Cocan00b!

Yea but DK....even Nolio says that big gary has some level of game playing skill.

Doesnt mean we'd compromise though.

I guess some ppl just have diff values

I"m gonna make a fam next round and this is my lineup:
- Big Gary
- Arganon
- Artic
- Moulandrax

They'll all be attackers....and I shall let them loose on whomever I shall please ...winning strat!

WinMEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

OMG!!

This sounds like the position i was applying for before Capri started...

Must have been #1437 and #1441s fault!!

Hah, heya DDK

...I've come back for a one-round wonder too

Ofcourse, (and I might just add, since this is more Strategy, rather than just a quetion), that although it may seem that what I'm saying is that it's better to do a big jump from 100% to 300%, it isn't always.

Big jumps will only be good if that Large Empire cost will have a big difference (ie you have a lot of planets/units, therefore networth).  And big jumps will only be good if the advantage you get from Construction Bonus is going to be real good.

Otherwise, people often forget that its really good to be continuously building.  If you build from 100 to 200% for example, then you'll have a whole lot more buildings making more stuff for you. 

So you really need to see what might be best.

I often build in waves (like every 100%) across all my planets, and then work as a fam to get to a certain percentage on al lplanets.  And then when the time comes, fund a lot of research, and get ready to jump big and then build all at once.

People also get stuck on the values of 100-300-700 etc.  But sometimes its not godo for you.  Often i go 100-200-500-600-700 or anything.

Just depends on the situation

> Zidi wrote:

> The fam bank evolves naturally. I would say PP was the first person to use it effectively from what i've heard.

For me I started with playing as teams, then two teams start playing together, and then eventually by midround it was just all family bank play.

I agree with this completely.  PP may have been the first one to implement it more effectively, or even make it known public.

But it was natural progression, natural flow of economy within a Fam to get better and gain a competitive advantage over other fams.

- My first round ever was as a Quantam, just learning the ropes and being SS.
- Next few rounds I learned about teaming with someone and banked for them.  Essentially this was a control of both our resources and we both using our heads to see where funds were needed.  It was team play.
- Then I changed roles a few times, and saw the need to incorporate a resourcer, hence 3 man teams.  (This I found worked awesomely later on, when I got to revist 3 man teams in the 3 man Draco.  Varlokas was an insane attacker, h4e was opping/minor attacker and resourcing, and I was pure banking.  We wont that round and it was fun as hell working in a 3man team again, as opposed to the stress sometimes a whole Fam Bank strat can bring).
- Then maybe needed another attacker, to rake in more planets.
- Another mix type of banker to add to the team.  Maybe someone to opp too.  All of a sudden you have half the fam in your 'team'. 

The people not in the 'team' were the people less active and didn't want to be involved.  They soon fell behind the rest of the fam and saw the need to evolve.

So yea, PP might have publicly made it aware, but Zidi is right.  This was an evolution of game style that led to a more cooperative game.  It's the community and the interaction between each other that keeps me interested in IC, the actual gameplay isn't 'that' great.  The Fam Bank system enchances this experience, because it increases intrafam communication and you get to talk about strats and what not.

But yea, very nice post Orbit.  Coulda done with a little less "PP did this, and PP did that"...but yep, I think it's important to show people that Fam Bank is not a dictatorship.  ANd the sad thing is, a lot of people may have been burnt with a wrong system thinking it was the "Fam Bank" system that they were playing.

All in all, those that are against it, I just hope you land in a fam that manages to use it effectively.  It really works.