Unofficial Count so far:

ZoZ - 4 (Torqez, Lynns, TMK, Gratitude)
The_Unknown - 1 (SittingDuck)
Undeath - 1 (Chees)

Still to Vote - 11 (arms, Eltara, evilsheep_Naked, Gladiator, Ilfirin, Jets, RockOn, Sunstorm, The_Unknown, Undeath, ZichtOpZee)

Okay...some interesting developments.

I revoke my theory on glad now.  I think Humidity was stupid, but not "THAT" stupid.  I actually beleive your a townie now, glad.  Sorry for before, but just as well it got us the SoI killed, right?

Anyway!!

..I have been contacted by the Knight (finally!), and someone has been investigated.  This person was investigated last night, and has shown to be mob.  This is also confirmed by him being the first person to suggest someone else to vote, while everyone else was voting Humidity yesterday - a weak effort to save his GF.

Game well played thus far, but your time is up - townies are uniting and its finally time we won one.  Bring in the votes guys.

I vote for ZoZ.

I agree, we need the cop to be in touch with those that are confirmed (and truly show to be) townies.

Cop (soldier) hasn't been doing their job so far, else I'd be contacted - and we can start to rally townies around us.  And what I"m saying, is that soon - it'll be too late.

and you look a bit stupid now ilfrin.... very suspicious indeed.

And i didnt 'defend hummi' .....i defended my voting for him.  If you look at it, i was quite instrumental in getting him voted off.  Plz get your facts right.

You're high on my suspect list at the moment - as are a few others.

Ofcourse, this means I die night phase - oh well, its been fun

...being a townie is much harder than being a mob, I've come to realise

Elro, jets voted sheep

"Sorry evilsheep. i wanted to vote for your mob friend zoz ,but didn't think he would be lynched today."

Maybe you should give your reason why.

A lot of us are not convinced on humidity or sheep ...and could possibly swing.

12:22    Il_ZoZecksi    As for Humidity, I still don't really get it. It looks like he is just trying to trick Grat into saying something silly. But then why would he deny saying key words to Jets? T
12:22    Il_ZoZecksi    it could be he mistook grat and glad
12:22    Il_ZoZecksi    but
12:23    Il_ZoZecksi    in chat their full names are used. Gladiator. and Gratitude.
12:23    Il_ZoZecksi    i dont think humidity's dyslexic, so he shouldnt make that mistake, not when 'enquiring' about external forum
12:24    Il_ZoZecksi    hence, my doubts
12:24    Il_ZoZecksi    so i could start a humidity bandwagon, see who hops on and then change vote
12:25    Il_ZoZecksi    and then comes the key part of my masterplan:
12:25    Il_ZoZecksi    have a beer.
12:25    Undeath    hmmmmz

12:34    Torqez    zoz
12:34    Torqez    i have a theory on that
12:34    Torqez    at first i thought he wouldnt have said grats name if he meant glad either
12:35    Torqez    but now what im thinking...if the mistake is a pure mistake. ...while only having a brief look at these external forums
12:35    Torqez    he could have forgotten that it was actually Gladiator, not Gratitude's name mentioned
12:35    Torqez    and in a quick hurry, thought it was grat and asked him
12:35    Torqez    and then while talking to grat, realised his mistake....and tried to remedy
12:36    Il_ZoZecksi    that would presume he's mob and doesnt remember who else is mob
12:36    Il_ZoZecksi    it's too careless / coincidental to just accept,
12:37    Il_ZoZecksi    and the paranoia here is ever present
12:37    Il_ZoZecksi    especially since i made it past night 3! this has since long not happened
12:41    Il_ZoZecksi    any thoughts?
12:43    Torqez    no i agree
12:43    Torqez    still a lot of assumptions
12:43    Torqez    and thats whats a tad annoying
12:43    Torqez    cos meanwhile, townies are dropping like flies
12:43    Torqez    but..i would rather beleive
12:43    Torqez    12:36 Il_ZoZecksi that would presume he's mob and doesnt remember who else is mob
12:43    Torqez    rather than assume he was trying to trick grat
12:45        *** arsy is now known as arzZzbury
12:45    arzZzbury    nn all
12:45    Il_ZoZecksi    nn arseh
12:45    Torqez    night!
12:46    Il_ZoZecksi    so he forgot hs fellow mobsters, or he tried tricking grat
12:46    Il_ZoZecksi    but in second these, he wouldnt have backpedalled that fast or clumsy
12:46    Torqez    not 'forgot' per say
12:46    Il_ZoZecksi    i'll stick with my vote
12:46    Torqez    but mistook reading grats name for glads in his forum
12:47    Torqez    but whats more appealing to me at this point
12:47    Torqez    is that if he DID make a stupid mistake
12:47    Torqez    and gets lynched
12:47    Torqez    and based on our assumption if he turns out to be mob
12:48    Torqez    we might have our next mob in glad (which undeath already seems to think so - based on observations he's made) ....AND maybe even the GF
12:48    Il_ZoZecksi    all true
12:48    Il_ZoZecksi    "if" however
12:49    Torqez    yep
12:50    Torqez    if humidity turned out to be townie
12:50    Torqez    then that really puts a bad light on grat...ie him being a mob
12:51    Torqez    so the reasoning i now have ....is if humidy gets lynched ...either way we'll get a mob in the next lynch ....and more than likely 2 mobs
12:51    Torqez    right now, that is much more important to me than some of thse other 'speculations' going around

Sorry, I like pasting logs so that I dont have to constantly repeat myself in here, for you people who miss it in chat.

I'm voting Humidity.

And when i say "grat" ...i actually mean glad** ...as in Gladiator, who voted for HolyEmpire

Hmm...based on this...

Since my theory is a little bit of stretch ...but very plausible at the same time... if HolyEmpire did get lynched and turned out to be MOB...i would say that RockOn and evilsheep are also townies.  Because they're willing to consider SD and sunny (based on the evidence) of them being townie, and Holy being a bit suspicous.  So really, if holyempire turned out to be a mob, quite a number of townies would be made known.

Strat-wise for this mafia game - I dont know if thats good or bad.  I'm hoping its good though, so we can provide a united front and finally beat these mobbies! (Is it just me, or does it seem a little easy for them?...at the start at least)

Grat, who voted for Holy earliar, could be luckily right, or just throwing a red herring (Since he voted HolyEmpire before I showed my theory) - so his I wouldnt be too sure about just yet.

Okay, I have three things/theories to say here...just my observations of whats going on.

Firstly ...

I actually like the A10 theory.  The fact that we know he was a Knight, stands to reason whoever he investaged, theres a high probablity that he would have placed them in his 'mob' or 'not mob' role.
- If he investigated by chance a townie, then that would prove Humidity is a townie, who is next on the list (after himself).  Unless Humidity is GF (would show him innocent).
- If by chance he discovered a mob, that would stand to reason that SD is a mob.  Thats probably one of the only few things we have to go on here.

Ofcourse this assumes that whoever he investigated,  he'd put first on the list (big assumption intself).

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Secondly,

I am not sure if Sunstorm is a mob.  If he was a mob, he wouldnt have promoted voting Lex with such vigor.  Otherwise if Lex turned out to be a townie (which he did), it would prove that Sunstorm is mob.  He's smarter than that, so wouldnt push the lex being mob so hard.  Granted he wasnt the first one to start with the lex thing either (could have just hopped on that bandwagon) - so theres still a little bit of ambiguity.

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Thirdly,

Theres a bit more information come to light for me.  And this is purely hypothetical.  Earliar myself and Lynns and HolyEmpire were talking to Arnor about how we found it stupid that Arnor gets killed without any input.  ANd for us, it sucks even more this round, since he turned out to be a townie (ie killed by traitors rather than SK).  This heads towards mafia winning again, and makes it quite annoying.

Anyway, this is a conversation we had...I was proposing an idea to switch the first  day and night to allow a bit more input (so that 2 ppl dont get killed off immediately with no action in gameplay - not sure if this is possible or not).

[21:02] <Arnor> but that's not really anything they grant me.
01[21:02] <+Torqez> ya
[21:02] <+Lynns> lex was a big part of the last game being cancelled
01[21:02] <+Torqez> i have the same sentiments
[21:03] <+Lynns> and that i didn't like
01[21:03] <+Torqez> for eg i wouldnt have voted grat to die
01[21:03] <+Torqez> cos he got killed first night
01[21:03] <+Torqez> and on the first night/day ...when its so unsure, and id have no reason to vote otherwise...i wouldnt vote for someone who was voted off early
[21:03] <+Lynns> now i need to get ready for work
[21:04] <+Lynns> have good days/nights people, i'll see you later
03[21:04] * Lynns is now known as Lynns_Working
01[21:04] <+Torqez> bye bye
01[21:06] <+Torqez> hey Arnor..
01[21:06] <+Torqez> how about some kind of system
01[21:06] <+Torqez> where 2 ppl dont need to die for no reason when the game starts
01[21:07] <+Torqez> ie, have the day first...(one option)
01[21:07] <+Torqez> maybe ppl can just randomly start talking and stuff
01[21:07] <+Torqez> i dont know the game mechanics tho ...so i could be proposing something completly taboo
04[21:07] <Arnor> torqez, it ought to be a fair system
[21:08] <+HolyEmpire> have the mods make names for everyone
01[21:10] <+Torqez> no =/
[21:10] <Arnor> oh no
[21:11] <Arnor> that would be overcomplex
01[21:11] <+Torqez> indeed, and ruin gameplay if u didnt know who was who
[21:11] <+HolyEmpire>
[21:11] <Arnor> exactly
[21:11] <Arnor> and the whole purpose of this channel.
01[21:12] <+Torqez> how about having day first?
[21:13] <+HolyEmpire> in that case arnor should just change his nick and start over
01[21:13] <+Torqez> like i said, i dont know how the game is played - so dont know if thats an option or not
01[21:14] <+Torqez> but not much is revaled during the first night, which makes ppl vote either way during the day
[21:14] <Arnor> HolyEmpire, it's ok
01[21:14] <+Torqez> so it would make ssense from a 'fair' point of view to have the day first - that way ppl can talk about the game
[21:14] <Arnor> I just keep watching from the sidelines
[21:16] <+HolyEmpire>
[21:17] <+HolyEmpire> well it was fun playing with ya

..from this... I had a feeling of inclination that HolyEmpire was not showing any remorse.  Obviously if he was mafia, he was instrumental ini getting Arnor killed off.

Now, going back to see the Day 1 lynchings....i see holy voted arms first for no apparent reason (not sure why, still speculating here).  But later, I see after people were splitting between lex and sunstorm....it was getting real close (likee 8-9 or something).  Why didn't holyempire switch his vote to anyone? Maybe he wasn't online in time (though imo there was plenty of time available).

However.....thers another possibility.  Because it was getting close, if HolyEmpire had changed his vote he could potentially have a deciding vote.  If he had the deciding vote and they turned out to be a townie (which according to my 2nd theory, both could be townie) - he would only IMPLICATE himself.  So why bother changing his vote, and showing that he switched to a townie.

I know it could potentially sound far fetched - but For this reason and in light that we do not have much else to go on, I'm gonna put my vote for HolyEmpire.

14:47    James|sunstorm    EVERY ONE VOTE LeX

Lex hasn't given away anything specific, indicating that he's mob.

I can't see why a townie would jump onto just that to try and get him lynched.  Suppose similar reason why it would have been logical to vote for me instead of jesnt last round.

(Lex, you better not be a mob x()

For that reason, my votes going to Sunstorm for now

(for partially the reason evilsheep gave above)

:d