Except you attacked first.

Indicating your intent to skirmish.

And your level of preparedness (to obviously get the jump on us).

With all this in mind, being the "underdog" loses value.

Actually it was pretty much just lyv.

But...he had help from Teddy.

I counted 3 times Teddy lost 1k bombers in 3 attacks.  And that was like in Year 3-4 or something. :s

You guys were like top 2 or top 3 in nw at that time i think.

EOR Biggest Drop maybe?

"If anyone cares and I'm sure you all do.. I had dinner with warsie 2 days ago in Auckland.  Hes good, real good ^_^"

I live in Auckland!

Still DotA Opti?

(at least i think that was you, where we played a couple times....cant remembe tho)

eh?  He wasnt talking about you hitting us at all Bonanza.  Why don't you relax a little?

He's more talking about your claims of taking so many planets without being in war.

"92 planet(s) captured by Mr A Plus (86 %)
For last year n im not even at war."

Just pointing out that they werent exactly 'earned'.  Or not hard to get anyway.

Ah crap.

Hope she's alright/recovering!

But the English still sucks!

Their*

Okay, just checked.

It's 2 systems!!

Glue, obviously we're open to negotiation.

But then 59 offered 10 planets for a pnap.

And then he messaged to change that 10 to 9.

....ok...then...

Anyway, its not as if this all means much.  They declared on us like a day ago, and they still havnt hit us, nor have we hit them.  Poki however, has explored in a few of our close core systems.  But that's about it.

Well, you did beat his fam in ICPG afterall.

oooh lol....k, u replied to a lot of posts, while i was wirting that

nvm me, im a noob

But yea!..do read my reply

"I ended the NAP, I declared WAR, then we went to war as per what the system lets you do. I am not saying it is right or wrong but it is part of the game."

Having a NAP is one thing.  If no time was allocated to the cancellation period (ie the time before you can attack, without giving notice), then 'technically' by the rules you've done nothing wrong.

However, a game standard is a 48h nap, but yes that should be specified (ie, some people make it 24h, 72h, or heaps of variations, like "don't explore in these set systems" etc).  At least sufficient warning for people to give them a fair chance.

Why?  Else you could NAP people, under that pretense.  Explore/Gain planets close to them, wait to portal.  And then cancel NAP, declare War and attack immediately.  And no, not everyone checks Relations Page every tick of the game.

But ofcourse, you're right.  These are just norms built into the game by the 'old' players.  And its become standardised.  It's become unwritten laws which some players abide by.  We like to honour them.  Ofcourse, you have no technical thing against you, that you 'can' cancel and attack without warning - however it's just frowned upon and people consider it extremely dishonourable.

Why?  Cos we play to have fun, and when people take advantage of loopholes (ie, "no time was specified for nap cancellation"), then it pisses people off, and ruins their fun.

It gets annoying when people work hard for their empires/fams - and then it all gets screwed because of a misunderstanding.

Goooooo goooo 54 and 34!

...and naci!