"First, no police force in the 'developed western countries' is as abusive as the american police. Shoot/taser/pepperspray 'm first, ask questions later. No wonder if everyone they try to give a speeding ticket might just pull a gun on them. "

Backwards, the cops are antsy because people started shooting.  Heard of John Dillinger and Pretty Boy Floyd?

Tasers/spray are nonlethal and less risky than chokeholds.  Pretty hard to kill yourself or break your arm when a cop peppersprays you.

"And you claim you need guns to protect yourself against an abusive government, yet no government in aforementioned 'developed western countries' deceives (we're still waiting for the WMDs in Iraq),"

Actually the whole Security Council voted up that one...

misinforms (the Axis of Evil vs 'hey, theyve got oil')

Actually we get more oil out of Canada and Mexico than Iraq

"and opresses (no right to privacy, spying on own population, agressive cops, number of people in jail) as much as the american government. "

Horseshit.  Your own country is based on the Napoleonic Code.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=preventative%20detention%20belgium&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CFUQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fciteseerx.ist.psu.edu%2Fviewdoc%2Fdownload%3Fdoi%3D10.1.1.193.9714%26rep%3Drep1%26type%3Dpdf&ei=xFEQUMinKevRiAKP8IDABg&usg=AFQjCNFjwlfKqtSwVK0AuLkJ0bwSS4Dnng

read from the 22nd page.   You guys have no right to bail; you can be held up to a year on a felony charge before trial.  In the US the suspect is to be granted bail unless the imminent risk of flight is so great that it's reasonable to doubt the perp will show up.  If it's waived, the suspect is guaranteed a speedy trial.

That's just one of the abuses in your vaunted "JUSTICE" system

>>Of course, thats just the opinion of those sadly overeducated west-europeans.<<

I know what a banueil is, so your whole argument has a big fat * for "doesn't refer to guntoting, cop shooting firebomb flinging Africans"

get a fake matricular card and you don't even need insurance

use your real name but put Andrade before your last name

Yup

"And before you say 'but then people over there kill each other in other ways', that is only partially true, as intentional homicides per 1000 inhabitants are also 50% higher in the USA than in Europe."

How many gang members do you have?

"The County and City of Los Angeles are the

no no it merely participates in a commonwealth of cooperative equals

"The poor, by virtue of being poor, tend to demonstrate more cooperation (by necessity), tend to be more ethical (hence why they are poor), and tend to innovate more (again, due to necessity). "

Apart from the Billionaires Boys Club, not many rich people form murderous gangs and kill people to prove they're good murderers.

""Because we're leading around the world, people have a new attitude toward America. There

was laughed out of the convention for dressing as a legate of the Romulon Store Umpire

betrayed us to the Cylons

when she's at work Nemeara plays Insane Clown Posse

let it rest like the Titanic, a broken giant doomed by its own grand vision