2,951

(12 replies, posted in Politics)

I smell a black supremacist. If he were not a black supremacist, he would not have listened to him for 20 years. People just don't continue to attend church for 20 years to listen to a radical crazy person give a sermon, unless they agree with them, ok? It's possible, I suppose, but it isn't plausible.

2,952

(13 replies, posted in Politics)

> [RPA]Sir SupAll wrote:

> "But soldiers should be allowed to live in hospitable conditions."

Like war is hospitable?

Your residence in the barracks is different from your participation on a military campaign.

2,953

(6 replies, posted in Politics)

> esa wrote:

> >because they will not compromise their values for the best possible outcome, like George Bush II. The result is a costly outcome.

The elite may have different ideas about what is the best possible outcome than the not strategically thinking public.

A nice skeptical response. But if the elite were trying to achieve the best outcome for themselves, they aren't doing a good job at it. First they have tried to establish a democracy in Iraq, where the circumstances do not favor one in that country, they have fueled terrorism, alienated much of the rest of the world, and neglected to respond to problems in America that could jeopardize them in the future. Furthermore, actual and accomplished strategists like Henry Kissinger and Dennis Ross have expressed criticism of George Bush's administration as being short-sighted and costly.

If it seems they are being idealistic, and accomplished strategists are saying they are idealistic, it's probably true that they are idealistic.

2,954

(13 replies, posted in Politics)

But soldiers should be allowed to live in hospitable conditions.

2,955

(6 replies, posted in Politics)

> Theodora wrote:

> And yet it is these "rigid" values and traditions that allow humans to interact with each other. Without them, you would have difficulty accurately predicting what another human might do and without being able to predict his actions, you would never be able to trust him. Because trust is the ability to predict how another will behave and react. Without trust, many modern human interactions aren't feasible.

Of course the government could start imposing laws and values on its citizens...but then we're pretty much back where we started, aren't we.

The same can be applied to interactions between countries, groups etc.



Now if everyone does it...everything becomes a mess. If one person does it while everyone else follows a pre-determined set of rules, that's when that person can profit.>>

Hehe, and that is a catch I didn't mention. Only an elite few are allowed to think strategically, and the rigidity of the masses gives them a competitive advantage parse. Additionally, I made an effort to specifically mention the leaders or people who exercise power. If everyone thought strategically, there would also be a moral crisis, because there would be no oughts from which to guide their lives.

2,956

(216 replies, posted in Politics)

Schni,

I want to know how having more options and the unprecedented opportunity to enjoy material abundance is equivalent to slavery. Explain?

2,957

(6 replies, posted in Politics)

I believe that, yes, but that is not what I am saying.

I am saying that to capitalize on our options and opportunities, decision making needs to be adaptable. To be adaptable we need to understand our circumstances, aim for practical results, and rely on experience and rationality. By contrast, anything that is fixed or rigid like values and traditions such as contained in ideology are rigid and can easily lead to maladaptive solutions. Consequently, this can lead to very costly outcomes. If not costly, not optimally profitable.

Meaning, for a country to capitalize on its options and opportunities, its leaders need to abandon their values, morals and ideologies, and instead strive for results. This can be applied, in fact, to all groups and individuals.

2,958

(6 replies, posted in Politics)

History has time and time again provided us with ample examples of groups and individuals sinking in to decline and even ruin because of an inability to consider or adapt to the circumstances they faced. A surprising number of cases for this inability is linked to ideology or culture, such as the Spartans refusal to adopt the new innovations in warfare characteristic of especially Thebes, remaining confident in the older ways of fighting. A second example is the Prussian army getting owned at Jena by Napoleon I, by marching in parade-like formation toward French troops mounted on roof tops. The Prussian generals placed too much value on the superiority of their discipline, and would not see that this formula was ineffective against Napoleon's strategy that favored mobility and speed. A third series of examples were heads of states who were unable to see reality through a realistic lens and instead pushed through or vehemently defended what they thought was ideal when those ideals guaranteed their ruin, such as Charles X of France, Nicholas II of Russia, and Charles I of England. They would not consider the practical reality they faced and adapt to that reality to capitalize on their options and opportunities.

These maladaptive results are frequently caused by rigid perceptions on behalf of those making decisions, or bold new plans that have not been tested with effectiveness and efficiency in their favor. Ideology is a good example of something people adhere to that created rigidity. Rather than compromise their values for a practical outcome, they will defend them under whatever cost. These people make up a large camp of those who exercise power, and they are dangerous. They are dangerous because they will not compromise their values for the best possible outcome, like George Bush II. The result is a costly outcome.

In order to have the best possible outcome, with human ignorance considered, a very different way of operating needs to take place. It needs to guarantee the most adaptability, it needs to be fluid and never fixed. We can not commit ourselves to a single set of values. The way to this outcome is to aim for results and rely strictly on empirical research. All values that promulgate a fixed method or ought-to-be thesis need to be eliminated in favor of goal-orientated ends and means that are empirically justified. Those that do not fit this criteria need to be eliminated because they are maladaptive.

2,959

(5 replies, posted in Politics)

> Noir wrote:

> when you get older, the cardiac system is put more strain on, and ppl who have spent their life exercising and building their bloodcappilars and heart is better off tongue

Even if that's true, try proving that people who don't are poorly off. I know 5 or so skinny and lazy people like me in their 50s/60s, and they're doing just fine. None of them have a heart or blood vessel problem.

2,960

(5 replies, posted in Politics)

No I'm very healthy. I have only been sick once in the last two years, and that was this year. It was a nasty cold that lasted for only 4 days. Second, there's nothing wrong with me medically. My blood pressure is low, every thing is good.

Yes I'm skinny, but my body has sufficient nutrients. The only problem is when I go out drinking, I get a buzz in just two beers.

As for fat people out running me, so what? My lifestyle does not require much physical performance. What matters is I am healthy and at a healthy body weight with very little effort.

In America, it is claimed that little more than 60% of people have weight problems. Now where I live, 80% of men are around 5'9-6'0 and do not weigh much more than 180 pounds, and women are around 5'7 and don't weigh much more than 130 pounds. Then again, my state has mostly a Scandinavian heritage, and is known for being that odd state in the US for many other reasons. We even get made fun of for our Swedish-like accent.

Anyway, there is a big fuss about our need for exercise in the US and abroad. Aside from the fact that I question that Americans are fat as is implied (but that could be because the people in our state are just weired people of Swedish decent), my experience is that exercise is not necessary for maintaining a healthy body weight. Actually, for most people I think adjusting eating habits is sufficient for maintaining a healthy body weight. Most people eat 3 massive meals a day, and this can cause them to eat more than is necessary due to the long time elapsed between meals. You eat big, your body consumes the calories, and later in the day you need more because you need more energy. Instead, if you never eat a big meal, except during special occasions, and instead snack on small meals throughout the day, you minimize the likelihood of consuming more calories than you need and contributing to weight gain. Moreover, you won't need to exercise because you won't be consuming enough to need to burn it off by exercising.

I understand there are Athletic people, and that's fine if they want to be. However, political support for massive efforts to force kids to exercise is a waste. There is a less costly alternative, and that is eating many small meals spaced out throughout the day. The three big meals a day is old fashioned, better suited for farmers, and maladaptive for suburban and city life. Do this and you can maintain a healthy body weight with very little effort. I know this to be true because I follow the recommended meal plan, and I am a very thin despite having less exercise than a typical fatty. At least they work. Me, I entertain myself on the computer or tv 10-15 hours a day, every day. And I'm uber thin! The reason is I consume only what's sufficient to maintain my tiny body weight, and my meal plan (of eating small and whenever I want), guarantees that outcome.

This is what I ate today
1. A bowl of cereal
2. 3 Snack bars
3. Icecream
4. A lean pocket
5. 4 glasses of water mixed with 5000% Vitamin B-12 solution
6. 2 glasses of blueberry juice

Yep that's it. It fueled me good. I'm skinny and I'm lazy, and proud of it! I avoid fatness without exercise! I am so brilliant!

And rather than this talk about forcing American youth to exercise, it's more efficient to teach them better eating habits. People can be lazy and have a healthy body weight like me, but our authorities and powerful Athletic lobby just don't want us to know it.

2,962

(45 replies, posted in Politics)

Lol. I just looked at Canada's tax rates. They only have territory and federal taxes. Someone who makes about $40k is going to pay no more than 25% in taxes, that's roughly $10,000. In the US, with 40 grand you're going to get owned with taxes.

In the US, if you make 40k, you already are paying 25% in federal taxes. That is also not including your state/local taxes, which adds up badly.

Of course, I'm not including deductions

Edit:

Yes Canada has higher taxes than the US, but that's only because they pwn the wealthy. In the US, everyone gets pwned.

2,963

(45 replies, posted in Politics)

> Gladiator wrote:

> well taxes still aren't more important than a budget

but i see your point, i still disagree because i've lived in canada and our taxes were MADDDDDD CRAZZZYYY...like where i lived it was what over 15% in total

on almost evrything you bought except like topicana juice, bread, and cheese and a couple of other things, and the government this way has a lot more money, and thus everyone there had health insurance...that was more than great for me..because i end up getting atleast one severe cold every winter tongue..and the doctors fees aro so un-affordable for me a student

things go great if u get the rich to pay up big_smile ...they dont use the money anyways haha wink

Taxes in the US are crazier. Expect 30-50% of your paycheck gone if you are over 25 and work full time. I'd be happy if it was just 15%.

Edit: As supall said, craploads of US taxes are wasted in the bureaucracy. It is absurdly inefficient. Hell, it was bureaucracy that raised standard health care costs by like 400% in just 20 years. And I'm pretty sure our inflation isn't that high.

2,964

(4 replies, posted in Politics)

For pete sakes, people's sexual urges are very powerful, and in our socially permissive and sexually charged society it is very difficult to persuade people to be abstinent when marriage and virginity have lost their perceived value. As are result, no matter what kind of argument or appeal to fear you cook up, our youth are going to call "BS" in their minds.

And I agree with them. However, telling them to use protection alone is not sufficient to protect them. Condoms don't protect you from a number of STDs such as herpes.  It's possible to be sexually active and minimize your risks, but practicing a little abstinence is a good idea. By that I mean limiting your partners and trying to commit to one regular. You don't have to be married, no, but there is utility in monogamy, even if it's serial monogamy or you are friends with benefits. A closed system of polyamory can also be safe, where a group of people have sex only with members of that group, and there are standards for admitting new members. However, it's also risky because the chance of someone cheating and catching an std and spreading it to every member of the group also increases. But at least it is less risky than an open system, that just creates an expansive network.

2,965

(45 replies, posted in Politics)

What America needs is a realist, a strategist. We need Henry Kissinger to save the Republic! Or Dennis Ross, at least a realist anyhow.

2,966

(17 replies, posted in Politics)

I just suspend judgment. Maybe God exists, maybe not. I can't derive the existence of Gods empirically, I don't see miracles, and the world seems to work deterministically.

2,967

(11 replies, posted in Politics)

It occurred on an important Catholic holiday, November 1, 1755 at 9:40 am. It killed people attending mass, and while the burning was extensive, the city's major churches were destroyed. Of the 200,000 people living near Lisbon, between 60,000 and 100,000 were killed. On the other hand, the people at the whore houses up in the hills all survived.

...

Now why would God exterminate the faithful and yet allow the sinners to escape death?

> ☭ Fokker wrote:

> "Sure humans do this, but very rarely, like when their children or family are at risk."

Animals do this too.

Not sure about the next part, if that can be applied... Research time!

And my prediction is that costly children will be abandoned. That is why we have adoptions and abortions!

LP,
No it's a good counter example, showing that an organism may forsake family and offspring when it is costly for it to take care of them.

Ever hear of desperate fathers in Asia who sell their children to slave labor and prostitution?

2,969

(13 replies, posted in General)

Cool

Altruism is a bad term. It suggests engaging in activity that is beneficial to someone else but costly to you. Sure humans do this, but very rarely, like when their children or family are at risk. But even then, people tend to high tail it like they did during the Black Death.

People desire to communicate and cooperate with others. But cooperation is critical when defining this human trait, because people tend to exit costly relationships. Relationships are established and continue almost exclusively if there is a mutual benefit. Just go to your friend and bitch about how your life sucks and be negative all the time, see what happens. Hell, take it further and go to your parents and make yourself a costly parasite. Make them work 14 hours to support you. See what happens!

My point is empirically reproducible. These wishful thinking scientists are wrong, a simple experiment like the one I gave will prove them wrong!

We are cooperative and social, but we are not altruistic.

2,971

(10 replies, posted in Politics)

Apparently at one time he was. Check this out, in 1994 he sounds brilliant and sharp. Moreover, he's very confident and articulate

http://youtube.com/watch?v=JvknGT8W5jA

Is he ill with something?

Or just playing dumb?

2,972

(216 replies, posted in Politics)

> [RPA]Sir SupAll wrote:

> @pvp

Ah.  When was Estonia formed?  Like I've said earlier, Eastern Europe throws me out of sync because of how often it seems that the countries change their borders...especially in the Balkans. >>

They do that because the Austrian Empire could not utilize nationalism to unify the people under one national identity. The French and Germans could do it, but Austria could not because of separate nationalist movements taking place. Every ethnic group wanted independence and their own state, and as a consequence Austria could not unify their empire with nationalism because if it tried it would only fuel secessionist movements.

So today we have people of different cultural identities competing for land and power and viewing each other as different.

2,973

(216 replies, posted in Politics)

> Blizzard wrote:

> dark wing.. all your comments can be ignored on the basis that any country that is stupid enough to sell its enemies guns (that are then used to kill its own men) has some serious issues wink >>
America's issue is it's too soft, like when the Shah was deposed.


>> You have an extreme prejudice aginst iran etc for the 'islamic extremists' the sad part is that the 'extremists' are just a small part of the population. the majority of them are people with higher moral standing then most other people. >>
Most muslims are extremists. Maybe not willing to be suicide bombers themselves, but the majority are sympathetic to their cause. The exception is the upper class, who actually take an interest in long gone civilized men of their past like Avicenna. They uphold to values like reason and learning.

<<While you are so intent on hating their religion, just remember that the founding religion behind america went on a crusade and killed far more people then have been the vitims of 'terrorism'>>
With that logic, Atheists like Stalin have committed the most atrocities.

The problem with non-upper class muslims is they are zealous toward a religious interpretation that has been corrupted by a barbaric nomadic culture and clerical/political authorities with zealous anti-west sentiments.

2,974

(216 replies, posted in Politics)

I only dislike the American working class and super rich.

The upper middle class are civilized, hard working, and noble people. We are educated, rational, independent and conceptual thinkers, and work professional jobs or own small businesses.

The working class is zealously religious, stupid, envious of my class's wealth, and outright irrational. For example, they get married between 18-23 and pop out kids like crazy. Then they don't get married and we're left with single moms. WTF?

The upper class is also zealously religious, disloyal to the state, consumes conspicuously, and tries to raise taxes on the upper middle class while paying nothing themselves. Their involvement in politics thanks to their powerful lobbies is the greatest threat to our empire.

2,975

(52 replies, posted in Politics)

This belongs in roleplay