good job seren, we thank you for your kindness to this game. I was offered a Tutor position a long time ago, didnt take it. It was gay. Tutors were gay, hell, ive even overthrown a tutor from leadership position my first time playing.

Oh, and they hardly lost fleet prior to us attacking. I seen killas NW go up, and stay where it was at, making me think that he was going to go attack us since we had been trying to get into his core.

The events that unfolded between 13 and 05 are only known to the players that were involved. Serenity was not involved so she goes and makes accusations that are based on her own assumptions.

There was no "major skirmish" with 06/09... There were some long range expos taken and we simply PNAPed so we could surround everyone else and not deal with any annoyances since your fam was the only one hitting us. Quick fix to an annoying yet fairly harmless problem.

And your fam = pussy for vulturing.

Good diplomacy got your fam that far... better diplomacy gets my alliance a win. Striving to be mediocre ftl 05!

15-20 planets a day exchanging when the total amount of planets held by your fam was about 300, id say it was a major skirmish. Plus, that early in the game, 300k+ nw ahead of another family is a huge advantage.

yes, we fought for that PNAP, did you really think temp was just gonna give us a free PNAP? dont think so. We were planning on raping 09 but decided it was too early for a major war. plus they didnt want to war us because key alliance was getting too big.

Yea, there were attacks in infils. But what fam doesn't have attacks? I already mentioned that I knew they were having skirmishes just like they were having skirmishes my fam.

Bottem line is.  13 did not make their war known to any outside fams. It was not posted in uni. There was no thread. Not my fault they didn't do the above.

I see him! He's hiding in the dark corner!

Im still here tidus

6) We agreed to a CF with 13 because we had demolished an assload of infra, we had just had a deletion, and because 05 started on them. Once again, nothing to do with you.
------> I know nothing about your war vs 13, I think you portalled in our core while fighting them, what you expected?? we sit and watch how you portal to rape us??

finally, someone who also didnt know anything

this is exciting. 09 06 gets a free ride to the TOP.

lol. OMG. No i didnt see any war threads in UNI, i didnt see any posts in PVC. I also dont go skimming back 4 pages, i read the last page, and then i post, but if its specifically about me, then ill read back on it.

I also apologized if we were dishonorable, but i didnt mean to be. I have played over 30 rounds playing honorable, and one time i do something that is dishonorable everyone jumps on my back.

Im holding to the fact that we didnt know they were warring. PERIOD. I already told you guys, i watched their NW and Pcount for over 3 days. and there was not one spike in either of those until killas jumped his fleet. I thought they knew we were going to war them and had saved also. I was wrong. They were warring another family.

On top of that. For a family that was in war, there sure were alot of attacks from them coming to us, not war, but they were kicking us out of their core.

Just the run down soo far.

3 Lets Go (3913) [32,47]  587 2476427 45770

4 THE BAD GUYS (3905) [48,15]  754 3265617 41816

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-   CAPTURES   -
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34 planet(s) captured by fuwuyuan (42 %).
14 planet(s) captured by Ariana3 (67 %).
5 planet(s) captured by Dogman (71 %).
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53 from #3913
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We overwhelmed the enemy 53 times. 1 families and 53 planet(s) involved.
We actually gained 30 planet(s) in total. Unfortunately they managed to retake 23.

-   DEFEATS   -
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18 planet(s) lost by fuwuyuan
8 planet(s) lost by Ariana3
1 planet(s) lost by Dogman
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25 to #3913
1 to #3908
1 to #3914
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We have been beaten 27 times. 3 families and 27 planets involved.
We actually lost 27 planet(s) in total.

This is day one

hehe, 10 is way tougher opponent then us. That is why we have PNAP

but

"No it means if you have a declared war its means nothing..  other fams can just attack without warning.   I loled when you said you saved us from 10 skyline.  We already made 1 of there bankers delete.. they only had 2 more to go"

Hey, i loled too because im sure 10 has fleets still hovering.

OMG. Cmon ricking. SKIRMISHING and WAR. Have two very different meanings... I expected a better reply from you if any.

No, we waited that long because our attackers was busy, and couldn't log on. We originally wanted to war Sunday, then it got postponed till Monday, then we started the morning of Tuesday. So no, I don't agree with you that we waited for 13 to war 10. And as stated by other members of my fam, we did not know they were in war with 10. Killas did message me saying that 10 might declare war because of a nuke or something,. but I did not see any action from neither of those fams agianst each other so I figured no war. I have been watching their nw for some time.

I'm tired of argueing about a lost cause. Bottem line, we didn't know they were already at war. and we have been attacking their core for a while too.

Anyway, 13 is battle ready. It is no longer vulturing, I'm sorry if it was, but we didn't know you were in a full on war with 10.

Second of all someone mentioned we cancelled on 13... we never had a nap, cease fire, or anything, we only slowed our attacks becausee we didn't want 13 thinkin we were gonna war tthem.