> Theodora wrote:

> Actually yes, many things are as simple as right and wrong.

only in the eyes of a kid or idiot.

thats about as good as it gets when it comes to debates..

i listened to some of it. and Obama definitely alienated me from him. he talked as though he was on a moral crusade and taxes were his way to punish evil companies and put the money back into the working families with total disregard to the amount of stress the current economic situation is having on companies and the fact that for the economy to improve, companies need to create jobs.

> Raif wrote:

> but your assuming that the function of policing is retaliatory when its not. the function of police is to maintain peace and order in a community, where ever that may be. you cannot seriousty say that Russia want to send some kind of policing presence is in retaliation to one pirate attack

im arguing that the function of policing can be retaliatory, while you're arguing that policing cant be retaliatory.

and when the police havent been able to police its own area forever, and pirates have been doing their thing for years, and you police it after 1 specific event, its in retaliation to it.

> Raif wrote:

> > Raif wrote:

> yup just like when police arrest a murderer their action is an ATTACk against the murderer right, not at all to be viewed as protecting the public?

more like when police from one country invade another to catch someone who is murdering in the other country.

so how does your schoolboard analagy fit in?

it was theo's anology.

> [Pw9] Lyvidian wrote:

> > avogadro wrote:

> > [Pw9] Lyvidian wrote:

> holy crap someone already called u avocado, i thought i was original!

>people have been saying that for years.... you're a noob.

and you're wrong

wow, the arguments just get better and better. if you cant debate, why are you in the politics forum?

> [Pw9] Lyvidian wrote:

> holy crap someone already called u avocado, i thought i was original!

people have been saying that for years.... you're a noob.

> Raif wrote:

> yup sure is theodora

and avocado, the school board could easliy be protecting other students rather than attackin you

they COULD BE; and even if the schoolboard says they're protecting the students, they COULD BE attacking you.

it shows that McCain was the person to bring to the attention of the legislature this issue, which shows a greater competence towards the issue then Obama, even if his competence was gained simply from reading a report.

> Theodora wrote:

> If McCain is not as competent as he portrays him to be, his point about Obama's is drastically weakened and/or negated.

That being said, I could have phrased what I meant in my previous post a bit more clearly. My bad.

its only weakened if its not clear which was more competent about it, which clearly McCain was even if he didnt do it single handedly.

> Theodora wrote:

> A headline and opening line that represented his main point. An inaccurate one.

not at all. his point was showing a point where McCain was more competent then Obama which does not hinge on the fact that McCain didnt single handedly investigate a major bank's paper's to find a discrepancy.