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~Cloud

Sean Connery, if you can wait 48 hours...

where iz Killas?

Wouter are you in 3117? Never heard of diplomacy?

heh

I think 16 made the best of their round, so props to LnSect and co. Would be interesting to fight you guys but you guys refuse to

Cloud, your fam had 100+ more planets than we did at the beginning of the war, our fam ended 200+ more planets than you at the end of war. If you want to pull stats, that's fine

Pretty sure TYMO blew up 2x planets than you did

Don't pretend like 25 helped us more than 22 helped your alliance.

and also you guys admitted defeated and asked for NAP. =_=

"yes... 11 lost against 25 AND 26 for reasons posted in my first post. There's no shame in losing a 2V1. Furthermore, the definition of losing can vary... for example: we didn't get hit that hard and had to pay 25 planets... for losing against 2 families that's not too bad imo. But again, the outcome of the war with 25/26 is of no importance. Only the fact we had to solo it is."

Realistically, it was 26 vs 11, neither 25 nor 22 did much to contribute. So please don't come here with that garbage. Because you were in "vmode", allow me to recap the war for you in terms of 25 and 11. none of the 11 bankers were making more than 200-250k per tick courtesy of the nukes/OHs/raids + you were in vmode, this is the real reason you guys couldn't keep up. Yes, you guys got hit hard, you guys lost a lot of infra, a lot of fleet, a LOT of portals. Cloud and Beers were busy irl (but who isn't?) and Rain didn't have much fleet to play with, but those are the decisions you made and the strategies you planned. The fact that my alliance only demanded 25 planets each from your alliance for PNAP is nothing more than a sympathy NAP. Many in our fam were not pleased, because you guys were down and out. At this point 16/14/18 all have grown to similar sizes/NW than the four families participated in the war, and the idea is so that everyone can still have some fun for the remainder of the round.

The fact that we won with TYMO (who made 2 attacks prior to the war all round) and EoD (who is a loose cannon with a big mouth) should be evidence enough. I've already argued with Cloud in another thread about the details of the war, I think we're both aware of exactly what happened, he just likes to manipulate his words a little so it seem like you guys didn't get raped as badly as I just put it . If you/Cloud don't like any part of what I said, please point it out and we can discuss it further

Let's see if Polder is going to make it to the 100mil mark now

name something you/your fam actually done this round flip

I believe back then Pinwheel was longer, had more fams/players and more planets. Still impressive nontheless. But I stand by my reasoning, and your case would fall under "shitty oppers" more so than diplomacy, as there are many families who are comparable in NW/size thus competition, and I'm basing this off the idea that you probably didn't NAP them all. Furthermore, a lot of the players you see in rankings are considered "good" now, were quite poor back then (some are still poor now), but times have certainly changed. I'm basing my judgment of players on what they have accomplished now, rather than what they have accomplished in the past, for better or for worse.

Re: Cloud

Everybody in Pinwheel is farming. Top 5 families wouldn't fight each other because 25/26 is PNAP'd with 11/22 after war. 16 just beat 25 in 1v1 war but refuses to NAP (unless 26 PNAPs 16) because they have a previous stipulation with 26 that only one fam out of the alliance can fight 16 at a given time. All the fams below #5 spot are irrelevant, and any actions done by top fams on them is considered "farming". In conclusion: the round was over when 25/16 war concluded, whoever has more planets at EoR just indicates who's been farming more