You trolled us all by setting the round up like you did, now please stop it
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You trolled us all by setting the round up like you did, now please stop it
I allready posted in the other thread:
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a few quick ideas would be:
1. Remove Defencestations all together, another possible solution could be to remove all defencestations after 1 week.
2. Either give more racepoints so people can have attackbonus in race, or seriously revamp the defencegranting battleformula
3. If u do not grant more racepoints i would advocate a fixed market with endless buy and sell quantities, so that you would see more difference in playstyles
4. With the removal of defencestations you need possibly reduce the cost of portals, this should really be done for normal galaxies aswell.
My main objection here is really that when mods are confronted with opinions about the round, they simply dismiss them as whining and try to protect their asses. Been true for all the mods ive spoken to so far about this. Gen started a sugestion thread after 2 days, apart from that there has been no conversation or interest, only dismissal.
Render you know nothing then, ive been fighting intesively last 2 days actually, or as much as is possible with the current setup.
Am i supposed to kill 99 other players before they can get a portal? Seriously why are you so afraid of admitting that this setup might not be the best? I havent claimed you removed the attackbutton, but you have reduced the incentive for attacking to the point where you get a almost purely defensive galaxy.
Arby the setup of the round has to correspond with the goal of the round. I was originally under the impression that the purpose of a HC round in Orion was that it would be swift with lots of fighting going on. Obviously i was wrong, mods had a different idea, and if that was the intention all along then I can only apologize for my "whining". I honestly do believe the current setup is bad, as it ensure that alot of people are killed very early, and then it stalls as people get portalled in their DS systems. This means you have 25ish empires sitting in a slowpaced galaxy for maybe 3 weeks, while the 75 people who got killed quickly has to wait for 4 weeks before a new round can be started.
For the future rounds i would sugest that we make a different kind of galaxy, a galaxy where there is fighting and offensive actions all around, a high pace place where you can duke things out, and that ends quickly and gives everyone a new chance quickly when a new round starts.
> Lone Tiger wrote:
> I'm enjoying the curent round. I know attacking is slow at the moment, but that's going to change. The basic nature of this game is that you can't be attacking all the time.
Last man standing. No matter how long it takes. If your not willing to fight, then you just end up stuck in a useless galaxy for the rest of your life. I think people would find a way to fight it out.
Its statements like this that annoys me
like WTF are you talking about? Attacking is hard atm because of DS, but will get better? Makes no sense.. Are we gonna wait 2 months for the top guys to get 1k planets 1k% OB to be able to kill DSs?
Render you are completely missing the point, are you even in Orion btw? If you are you should know that the people im talking about have nothing outside their DS protected systems. You are just trying to be smart and circumventing the problem, but you are failing dramatically
> Render wrote:
> > Noir wrote:
> Render i have infils of players that log in once every 3 days, all they do is infra, and add a few more soldiers and agents, and they remain impossible to kill.
I would rather say they are perfect targets, if they login once every 3 days you can easily place a lasertrap or even portal in one of their systems.
And then what you do?
Now you are portalled with a guy that has a DS 20 portals 20k agents and 20k soliders.... Do you want me to do the math on how many soliders are required to kill that? Not to mention if he has fighters instead :S
Render i have infils of players that log in once every 3 days, all they do is infra, and add a few more soldiers and agents, and they remain impossible to kill. So you really think that that should be possible in a socalled HC galaxy, cause it certainly wouldnt get you anywhere in a normal galaxy.
Orion has 180 systems and 100 familes, thats 300 Defencesystems in 180 systems... Very Hardcore haha. And you can ask anyone Render, but im not online 24/7 and this whole thread started because i admit i dont have the time to play Orion propperly.
The fact remains that HC is supposed to be alot of attacking, but it has become something like Virgo where people can just sit relax on a few planets and not have a care or a fear in the world.
Nice arby really nice, look at Orion, and please notice that all of the top 5 empires either have 50% income or are quantams... You cannot seriously mean that you have a good setup for this round?
Are you really going to be that arrogant and ignorant and just stick with your guns and not at all admit that maybe some of the most experienced players in this game might have a point?
Alot of players did go agressive, where are they now? They perished because you designed a galaxy that wasnt ment for hardcore play.
But ofcourse, you guys never admit youre wrong and you cannot be critizised, its all noirs faul right? And im only whining....
so i take it you are one of thoos eplayers who only survive by barracding themselves in some DS systems?
You cant sabotage that many portals... the bottom line here (that eveyrone seems to agree with) is that the setup is [salty] and that the mods dont even freaking care enough to ask some players about it
I cant fleetrun someone in a system where he has a DS...
Each attack would be me losing say 10k soliders and him losing 1,5k soliders.....
How does nuking lasers kill portals?
Please do tell me the best way to kill a 75 planet guy with 3 DSs portals and sufficient agents
Please tell me ilu, what i should do, with nothing but DS whores close to me? Ive tested maybe 10 emppires, they are all hiding behind DS
waht you guys seem not to understand is that 1 man HC galaixes is the purest for of inovation and adation in IC, people who play it correctly relative to its setup will be the survivors.
With the round the way it is atm, where its practically impossible to attack, everyone HAS to infrawhore , anything else i just silly.
HC is supposed to be quick with the big guys eating the little guys. Its not supposed to be every other lithuaninan guy and his grandmother sitting on 3 systems with 3k lasers and 50 portals with 3 Defence stations surviving the entire round.
Yet again i must say mods disappoint me, instead of actually talking to me and/or debating some of it, they get defensive and deflect it all.... nice pride you have there
I tried to arrange KOTH or Orian Battle Arena as i called it, but it took mods about 1 hour to refuse it
a few quick ideas would be:
1. Remove Defencestations all together, another possible solution could be to remove all defencestations after 1 week.
2. Either give more racepoints so people can have attackbonus in race, or seriously revamp the defencegranting battleformula
3. If u do not grant more racepoints i would advocate a fixed market with endless buy and sell quantities, so that you would see more difference in playstyles
4. With the removal of defencestations you need possibly reduce the cost of portals, this should really be done for normal galaxies aswell.
Ive asked mods to please let me help them with the next HC setup tho, theres still hope!
Ye its so fun when mods turn a HC galaxy into a freaking infrafest...
Well the paying family can specify coords ofc, else planetpassing would be impossible ![]()
Exactly, so planet trades are legal when planet is not specified by the receiving family
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Says nowhere in the rules you cannot trade planets for agreements, so this is actually legal strictly speaking
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