can you guys discuse that in a other thread?

maybe *- Mw round 39 PvC

this thread is about how much we pwn 08 and 14 (or how much we will get pwnd )

"08 didn't defend planets properly. thats a given. there were planets gained in nap with 4619 and we were lazy about it. Nobody but 4617 has shown any real threat to us this round until now. I guess we just got used to being on top =P

Not too bad of a job so far 16, but you should have done more initial damage. We have best eco in round and now we have a reason to finish fighting instead of infrawhoring! big_smile"

why more intial damage?
you sit on much more resources and cash as we would be abel to produce till round ends.
so even if we would have killed every singel building of your fam, situatione would still be the same...
just a bit more ping pong about planets we wont be abel to hold..
still want to see how you get back the 130 planets we took yesterday.. your attackers are nowhere close anymore to those ^^
(also i don't expect 2 mil nw bankers to have so less soldiers... next time tell me that bevor we hit and we might try a raid or 2 )

"tobi u gonna be active next rnd?=P"

nope

seriosly calm down

how many more and ^^ should i edit in till you don't take an acusatione seriosly? 5? 10?
was mostly making fun of your stupid claims by copy past your idiotic sentence and changing the word 16 with 14
so if that sentence is whining then you....

you guys have attackers? where
or do you mean DroidsDK?  but he still didn't jump fighters...

so if 07 did ally aid 19

what kind of fleets is 07 using to fight us then?

ghost fleets?   aaaaaaaahhhhhhhh

CF = PNAP

some people in here post funny things....

"so i stand by my view. my player showed evidence of a hack and i dont want to believe it but what cant speak cant lie. sad there was evidence."

he showed standart msg he get when he connects to the internet...
or restarts his pc...
also
192.168.1.3 is his ip4 adress..
fe80::4120:5086:73e6:40%10  his ip6 adress..

he could easely check that by doing what gondor posted on page one..
but you guys are not intrested in solving this or?

also if he would check his logs of today or of 4 month ago or of any day in between he would see the same reports...

but instead you run and your former fam remembers run around here and acusse people of hacking and cheating..

pffff loser

"The fact is that i had 20s without being able to go in the game when all my attackers had 10mn, was watching fam news of them being runned and removed from everywhere, so the lag was only for 1 side...sad to play 1 month to get this on the 10 key minutes of the round.
Dunno what happened but:
-If they have been hacked it's sad
-If they haven't been it's also sad that the servor can't handle 10 ppl doing a cancellation war..."

Animal was attacking me whole time (but only unportaled... and noone else was in his nw range...    so how did the lag change anything?..  he also didn't get cleaned by us.. he just shared not in all important areas..... seeing that you guys did prepare since over 7 days.... his position on us was just a big fail
yeah maybe he would have taken my unportaled quicker maybe... but would that change anything?
also a litle tip for him.. doing 2 attacks to take an unportaled is stupid... sending 1 tranny and 2 droids in the first fleet will do wonders...)

Drp was attacking until lag at minute 10... where our fam also had lag.. and i needed 8 minutes from sending fleet till attack report... so lag might have cost him his fighters.

Vandals had no trannies... so he did nothing the whole first tick.. dunno if you want to blame the lag for that..   also he had fighters out at the beggining of tick... dunno why.. noone had lag then (animal tried to fighterrun me then, drp was attacking)... also he builded fighters a tick early... means he had 1 hour and 1 minutes to statione them.. until i got them 3 times...

hermit was not online first tick..  he started attacking tick 2.. got a few portals of tico because tico had whole fleet stationed because animal could hit him..
tico unstationed... hermit lost whole ground... animal got ticos fighters once in return.. hermit gets fighterrunned 2 minutes later... hermits deletes another 2 minutes later

Sl X 4 was not online.. and had no fleet... got all his portals sabed first tick of war... and never did anything until war ended

FirstWorldEmpire   had no shared... and no fleet

but yeah blame the lag kollop
don't blame that you guys did the worst planed war i ever have seen in 30 rounds

gathering whole bank on someone over 1 day bevor war... who has no agents or wizards...
so that everyone can sot or vision or infil him.. and that everyone knews your savings...

animal sending out stuff for trannies out one day bevor war... so that we know what drp and hermit will have for ground that early... at least sent more aid as needed.. and rest back via a banker... so that we cannot calculate that so easely...  like we did

spending a hell of the lost for defense of bankers... everyone jumped 500k-1 mil nw.. some with like no cons...

vandalez building his trannies a tick to late....  a main ground without trannies... very usefull

animal sending all attackers what they need for war.... 5 or 6 ticks bevor war...
after that there was NO aid flow between your attackers anymore ... nada... nothing to confuse us or to make us guess your fleets wrongs... hell sending us a msg telling you what you guys are going to build would have had the same effect.... thnx.

vandalez, animal building fighters 4 ticks bevor war... thnx
so one vision on Vandalez 3 ticks bevor war.. the tick i had to build fighters..
the differecne between vision and the aid he got a few ticks early.. and i knew what he would build.. and what i have to build to rape him...
also 1 tick bevor war i know that i had to deportal with animal... and could open all the taps needed for that in time...

serisosly... if you play rock-paper-scissors with someone... you shouldn't show him that you will play rock bevor he has to make his move... else you shouldn't wonder that he shows paper and you lose...

01[03:09] <Tobi> lag
[03:10] <&Legions_sleeping> =P
[03:10] <dRaGoNsUP> stupid vandals didnt deportal against tobi
01[03:10] <Tobi> hate lag with fighters out X(
[03:10] <&Legions_sleeping> DRP has all fleet staioned
[03:10] <&Legions_sleeping> 2 droids are enough
[03:10] <&Legions_sleeping> dragon mass him please
[03:10] <dRaGoNsUP> all?!
[03:10] <dRaGoNsUP> hHAHAHA
[03:10] <&Legions_sleeping> akk
[03:10] <&Legions_sleeping> all
01[03:10] <Tobi> dunno why vandalez didn't statione fleet
01[03:10] <Tobi> he has less as 1 mil droids now
01[03:11] <Tobi> alos got his fighters 3 times
[03:11] <dRaGoNsUP> lol
[03:11] <dRaGoNsUP> which is elbe
[03:11] <dRaGoNsUP> which is pitbull
01[03:11] <Tobi> so tico when you done with the small guys.. you might clean vandalez... but let me run his ground a bit more first
[03:11] <dRaGoNsUP> LAGGG
01[03:12] <Tobi> vadalez pitbull
01[03:12] <Tobi> elbe communicatione
01[03:12] <Tobi> at least that guy wanted me to kill lee
[03:12] <dRaGoNsUP> ouch
01[03:12] <Tobi> so it is probatly elbe
01[03:12] <Tobi> In the fight we lost 179428 fighters
01[03:12] <Tobi> In the fight we lost 162090 fighters
[03:12] <dRaGoNsUP> ?
01[03:12] <Tobi> In the fight we lost 163346 fighters
01[03:12] <Tobi> that subracted from 1 mil
[03:13] <dRaGoNsUP> ohhh
01[03:13] <Tobi> are vadalez fighters
[03:13] <&Legions_sleeping> ok i took 70k figs from DRP
[03:13] <&Legions_sleeping>
[03:13] <dRaGoNsUP> i tot u got hit
[03:13] <dRaGoNsUP> haha
[03:13] <dRaGoNsUP> nice tico
[03:13] <dRaGoNsUP> after i suicided 20k
[03:13] <dRaGoNsUP> u bitch=P
01[03:13] <Tobi> laggg
[03:13] <&Legions_sleeping> but lag started
[03:14] <@OrBit> shit lag
[03:14] <wowwow2> he has about 500k left
[03:14] <dRaGoNsUP> orbit...we have been getting this throughout the day regularly
[03:14] <&Legions_sleeping> 62k more
[03:14] <dRaGoNsUP> wads happening to the server=P
[03:14] <wowwow2> it's gonna take a break
[03:15] <&Legions_sleeping> grrr
[03:15] <dRaGoNsUP> go tico
01[03:15] <Tobi>     14001 Bombers
01[03:15] <Tobi> 1857371 Fighters
01[03:15] <Tobi> 2466023 Droids
01[03:15] <Tobi> 30281 Transports    0 weeks xx,yy:z     EX Vandals EX (4186)    In attack rang
[03:15] <dRaGoNsUP> pwn his ass
[03:15] <dRaGoNsUP> =P
[03:15] <@OrBit> stefan is awol, watching porn
01[03:15] <Tobi> will i ever get the result...
[03:15] <dRaGoNsUP> they are noob attackers=P
[03:15] <@OrBit> did u deport with animal?
01[03:15] <Tobi> yep
[03:15] <@OrBit> k
[03:15] <wowwow2> gogoog
01[03:15] <Tobi> i asumed he builds 5 mil fighters orbit
01[03:15] <Tobi> but he did just 3 mi
01[03:15] <Tobi> l
01[03:15] <Tobi> could have builded more X(
[03:16] <@OrBit> i bet they r gonna blame this lag on me

THE FAMILY NEWS FOR YEAR 17
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THE FAMILY NEWS FOR YEAR 18
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-   CAPTURES   -
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172 planet(s) captured by FatAss dRaGoNsUP (87 %) (14 retakes).
143 planet(s) captured by FatAss ivolchip neik (83 %) (5 retakes).
48 planet(s) captured by FaTaSs ToBi (70 %) (5 retakes).
13 planet(s) captured by FatAss HT (100 %) (12 retakes).
3 planet(s) captured by Fatass Fearless (50 %) (3 retakes).
1 planet(s) captured by FatAss AZeR (50 %) (1 retakes).
1 planet(s) captured by FatAss edthemonkey (50 %).
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380 from #4186
1 from #4193
-------------------
We overwhelmed the enemy 381 times. 2 families and 352 planet(s) involved.
We actually gained 300 planet(s) in total. Unfortunately they managed to retake 52.

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-   BLOW-UPS   -
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46 enemy planet(s) blown up by FaTaSs ToBi
26 enemy planet(s) blown up by FatAss dRaGoNsUP
1 enemy planet(s) blown up by FatAss HT

15 planet(s) from FatAss dRaGoNsUP have been blown up.
2 planet(s) from FatAss dpenguins have been blown up.
1 planet(s) from FatAss ivolchip neik have been blown up.
1 planet(s) from FatAss Portgas D Ace have been blown up.

---------------
-   DEFEATS   -
---------------
44 planet(s) lost by FatAss dRaGoNsUP
37 planet(s) lost by FatAss ivolchip neik
20 planet(s) lost by FaTaSs ToBi
9 planet(s) lost by FatAss dpenguins
8 planet(s) lost by Fatass Fearless
6 planet(s) lost by FatAss HT
4 planet(s) lost by FatAss AZeR
4 planet(s) lost by FatAss Portgas D Ace
3 planet(s) lost by FatAss BlueMonkey
3 planet(s) lost by FatAss Wowwow
2 planet(s) lost by Fatass Schnoip
1 planet(s) lost by FatAss Orbit
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141 to #4186
-------------------
We have been beaten 141 times. 1 families and 124 planets involved.
We actually lost 96 planet(s) in total. At least we were able to retake 28.

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-   FAILED ATTACKS or FIGHTER RUNS   -
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29 attacks without capture by FatAss ivolchip neik.
26 attacks without capture by FatAss dRaGoNsUP.
21 attacks without capture by FaTaSs ToBi.
3 attacks without capture by Fatass Fearless.
1 attacks without capture by FatAss edthemonkey.
1 attacks without capture by FatAss Orbit.
1 attacks without capture by FatAss AZeR.
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82 failed attack(s) have been made in total.
This means a fail/success ratio of 22 %.

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-   SUCCESSFUL DEFENSE   -
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28 failed attacks against FaTaSs ToBi (58 %).
24 failed attacks against FatAss ivolchip neik (39 %).
21 failed attacks against FatAss dRaGoNsUP (32 %).
11 failed attacks against Fatass Fearless (58 %).
7 failed attacks against FatAss AZeR (64 %).
4 failed attacks against FatAss HT (40 %).
1 failed attacks against FatAss edthemonkey (100 %).
1 failed attacks against FatAss Wowwow (25 %).
1 failed attacks against FatAss Portgas D Ace (20 %).
-------------------
98 planet(s) defended in total.

in the last 6 ticks of fighting we took 180 planets and they 10..
at least 3 bankers/resourcers had no fleet anymore

"

I for 1 am surprised at the war and these are my reasons

1) I'm surprised 97 had same savings as 86
2) how hemit could tell u our exact war plan so u knew animal wud b fig man n pit wud b ground (which won u the war)
3) how tobi managed to out jump our fig guy
4) how we underestimated 97s fleet jump
5) how well 97 did at cancellation..... But I suppose not hard wen ur told ur enemies plan

take nothing away from 97 they did well

roll on next round smile
"

that post is so fail...
1) you guys had 2 bil gc 70 mil iron 7 mil octa 30 mil endu as seen in sots
we had less as 1 bil gc  and 60 mil iron  3 mil octa 15 mil endu

2) noone told us what you jump
animal sending out aid to all attackers early did
then visions bevor and after tick... i know that pitbull jumps 1 mil fighters the tick he builded those... i can show you the visions and chat logs if you want...
i know that pitbull jumped trannies to late... 71% cons means 8 tick build time
73% 7 ticks.. he had 71% cons.. and builded them 7 ticks bevor war... fail
i new he could jump max 3 mil ground because he had that stuff on hand.. and never got new aid in infil... same with other attackers...  only animal i guessed wrong because he must have sent alot of his savings to bankers... so i asumed he jumps 5 mil fighters... so i didn't jump to beat him.. which brings me to:

3) i jumped 2 mil fighters (i could have jumped 4 mil.. but as said i asumed he jumps 5 mil.. so my fail... this also means we didn't use all our savings... while you did somehow)
animal jumped 3 mil... i just deportaled with him.. and since he wasn't into important systems and neither could ticker me because of lack of ground we just ignored him.. and smashed pitbull (who was all over our systems).

4) you guys jumped fleet early... thats just stupid.. so we knew what you jumped bevor we had to jump... sure we jumped so that you fail...  i never plan what we jump exact till 3 ticks bevor war   so everyone had fleets to beat there attacker in his nw range

5) its not suprisingly how well we did... its suprisingly how you guys manage to just build 4,5 mil fighters and 5 mil ground on attackers in total while having at least 2 bil gc 80 mil iron and 30 mil endu